Posted by blacatz |
- Well, rice is believed to be an allergy issue here. msg
Posted by MikeK on 3/27/2008, 1:32 pm, in reply to "Another cat food question - is rice better for them than corn?...msg"
So we stopped using rice products for the time being. Inova and Merrick are pretty decent I think.
"It takes a bigger man to admit he loves cats than most men who would not". - Me - Yes. But only because..........msg
Posted by Noofies on 3/27/2008, 2:41 am, in reply to "Another cat food question - is rice better for them than corn?...msg"
it's less allergenic than corn. They don't need grains, they don't digest grains completely, and he protein in grains (including rice) aren't as bioavailable to cats and dogs as meat proteins. (This is true of cats especially - dogs are omnivores but cats are obligate carnivores and Nature designed their bodies to process meat, not plant matter.) But manufacturers can't make a dry food without at least 60% dry ingredients or it'll plug up the extruder. Corn gluten meal is added to cat food as a source of protein - studies have shown that it's nowhere near as digestible as meat meal, chicken meal, or fish meal, and that it actually depletes the blood concentration of taurine so the food mfrs have to add extra taurine to compensate. But though there is some protein in ground corn and in rice (in any form), it's usually just in there for fiber. Powdered cellulose and beet pulp are also just in the food for fiber.
Let us endeavor so to live that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry.
~Mark Twain - Oh great. And the taurine all comes from China, too.
Posted by Pat B! (Pat B) on 3/27/2008, 9:31 am, in reply to "Yes. But only because..........msg"
The people I know of who have gone looking for non-Chinese made taurine have had a lot of difficulty finding any. - Taurine suppliers
Posted by Pat B! (Pat B) on 3/27/2008, 11:21 am, in reply to "Oh great. And the taurine all comes from China, too."
http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?Type=SALE%2CAGENT%2CMISC&ssk=y&year=&month=&location=&keyword=&SearchText=taurine&Country=&srchYearMonth=&IndexArea=offer_en&CatId=0 - I have read a lot of cat nutrition books...
Posted by hollypetsit on 3/27/2008, 12:28 am, in reply to "Another cat food question - is rice better for them than corn?...msg"
Rice does convert slower than corn and is a lot healthier for them and us! I "cook" for all of my animals and they are soooo much healthier since I have been giving them whole grains, and real meat. They don't shed, no joke! - I wanted to do that SO bad, but...msg
Posted by mag (magnolia) on 3/27/2008, 1:34 am, in reply to "I have read a lot of cat nutrition books..."
some of them just wouldn't eat it. Would not budge. My scrawniest little gal, Molly, didn't eat for a whole day, and late into the next day I panicked and opened her a can of Fancy Feast. At least it wasnt' on the recall list.
I admire anyone who can feed them and get them to actually eat it. A lot of the things they need in the food are hard to get here, too, unless you go through a huge amount of traffic and over a *very* big bridge.
- My oldest cat would not eat...
Posted by hollypetsit on 3/27/2008, 10:18 am, in reply to "I wanted to do that SO bad, but...msg"
anything! For awhile I had to give her different fish and sometimes tuna mixed into the food to get her to eat. There were times I gave in to, but eventually they all turned to the better food. Now my oldest won't eat anything else and if I try to give her regular cat food she will look at it, then me and meow. She is a funny kitty.
I have a wild oats for supplements and all kinds of other stores for their food that I cook. That sucks that nothing is close for you. Maybe eventually you will get something close. - Yeah, this is a backward place....msg
Posted by mag (magnolia) on 3/27/2008, 2:16 pm, in reply to "My oldest cat would not eat..."
to be such a big thriving tourist trap full of obscenely wealthy people. Really.
