Posted by Lucid on July 16, 2007, 10:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Aquaman canceled and the future" His characterization was different, yes. And i know people love to blame that on PAD because he took it the furthest, but Aquaman had been becoming more hot headed and arrogant long before he came onto the book. Pretty much since his son had died. The Pozner/Hamilton mini from the 80's was based around Aquaman's anger. And whether you like how PAD wrote him or not, he gave reasons for why Aquaman was acting that way. It was natural progression. He'd lost his wife, his son, his hand and he'd found out startling things about his origin. All this contributed to him acting like he did and it was clear that's why it was happening. Trying to say this new Aquateen could have as much claim to being Aquaman as Orin does, just because he could be passed off as another version of the character, even one closer in origin to the very first Aquaman, is still wrong. He's not the character i grew to love reading all his adventures over the many years. I have none of that attachment that i gained from 60 years of Aquaman stories to a guy who was involved in absolutely none of it. Origins may change, but what really matters are the comic i read. And though he's changed over the years, Arthur/Orin is still the character that went through all that, and THAT's why he's Aquaman. /rant. --Previous Message--
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The fact that, despite changes in origin, Orin is still the character that's been through everything that's happened to the Aquaman character since his creation. They didn't wipe his history when they changed his origin. He's still the guy that trained Garth. Still the guy that married Mera. Still the guy that lost his son. Still the guy that was in the original JLA lineup. None of that changed, no matter how many times his origin did.
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: But what I just don't get is what besides
: the name "Orin" makes that one THE
: Aquaman? Because his characterization
: varied so drastically from my admitted
: limited exposure to the character. Just
: because this time it's DC clearly stating
: "this is a new character" means
: it's unacceptable? Busiek was always
: hinting in interviews and even on message
: boards that AJ wasn't all he seemed, and
: that Orin wasn't the "first"
: Aquaman. I think it's too bad he didn't
: stick around, and what Busiek did do was
: underwhelming. That's what killed it for
: me. I really don't care who's starring in
: the comic book. If they had gone
: "Aquagirl" on us and put Lorena in
: the starring role, that would've been cool
: by me! Just make sure it doesn't suck,
: that's all I ask.
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: I waited over 20 years for Captain Mar-Vell
: to
: return I think I can wait for Orin.
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: AJ just doesn't appeal to me. DC isn't above
: having multiple heroes with the same
: codename (Lanterns and arrows)
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: On a serious note though, AJ just will never
: be Aquaman to me. Maybe he is to someone
: else, but not to me.
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: --Previous Message--
: Well, good luck with that. It might be a
: long wait if the new Outsiders proves as
: popular as the current version. AJ will be
: introduced to all new readers and who knows,
: they might actually like him ...
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: --Previous Message--
: I'll pass and wait for Orin to return.
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: --Previous Message--
:
: Well I was looking at the message boards on
: Dccomics.com and although I don't believe
: there's been an official announcement, it
: appears 57 will be the last issue if the
: current series. Oh well. I think the
: series' demise is a combination of the new
: character turning old readers away and the
: lacklustre writing turning away new readers.
: Because really, the new guy's first
: appearance generated as much interest as a
: number 1 issue. But they couldn't keep it
: up and it gradually lost steam. I suppose
: it's better to end a series that's going
: nowhere rather than prematurely cancel
: something great just because its not
: popular. Great stuff is never popular!
: That's for history to decide.
:
: But it also looks like AJ isn't
: disappearing. He might be joining Batman's
: new Outsiders. If that's the case I'll be
: there, and I'll hope for the best. Who's
: with me?
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