Posted by stupid statement on 30/5/2007, 9:18 am, in reply to "Re: AIS"
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"Facts only tell part of the story and you have completely missed the point I was making." Facts are the only story and the only way you can judge these coaches on what is delivered regarding the number of girls on the Australian team and what international results they achieved. Ju Ping was great, however, the new coach has only been there 2 years and the results are even better if you look at the last 2 quads : eg JU Ping 2000 1 AIS athlete ( 16% of the team of 6) 2003 1 AIS athlete ( 16% of the team of 6) 2004 1 AIS athele ( 16% of the team of 6) New Coach 2005 worlds 1 AIS ( 33% of the team of 3) 2006 worlds 2 AIS ( 33% of the team of 6) So if your arguement is that all these girls with heaps of potential aren't reaching expectations you must be really upset with Ju Pings performance. Or do you really want to just bash the AIS and its staff because its a popular hobby of many people on the board? --Previous Message-- : Facts only tell part of the story and you have : completely missed the point I was making. : : Melody (and the other girls) was already : talented before this coach came along so I : don't agree that she has : "improved" due to him. She : certainly has displayed enormous courage and : determination to come back from her injuries : (as I have already acknowledged). I can't : really comment about Melanie as I don't know : what she was like beforehand. : : My point is that there was a group of : talented girls with enormous potential who : haven't performed to the expectation that : many people had of them. : : I am in no way blaming the girls but the : number of girls who have quit or been : injured since Ju Ping has left does raise : some questions. : : The fact that Hollie requires injury : maintenance is cause for concern. : : The AIS has the benefit from a whole range : of support services so why all the problems. : : The other point is what about the future of : the AIS even for the next quad as they have : so few girls coming up. : : --Previous Message-- : The AIS is performing well. Melanie Jones : and : Melody have improved a lot under the new : head coach. Hollie is under injury : maintainance which is managed by Peggy. For : them to have 3 out of 12 girls in the Worlds : squad and probably 2 out 6 in the team is a : much better result than in previous years : where for example the last 2 olympics they : have only had 1 out 6 selected. : : --Previous Message-- : There has been quite a few (negative) : comments : about the AIS program and it's gymnasts over : the past few weeks. : : It got me thinking about what is happening : there. I have been a fan of the AIS style of : gymnastics over the years and was excited at : the prospects of Monique, Hollie, Melody, : Victoria, Casey and others (I can't remember : now!)coming through. : : They have certainly had their share of : injuries and retirements but they have not : lived up to expectation.(Although I think : Hollie is doing brilliantly on beam and : Melody has made a remarkable comeback).Is : this due to the program, the new head coach : or just bad luck? : : Since Ju Ping has left it just doesn't seem : to have the same standard. No-one seems to : comment on the head coach there - what do : people think of him? The girls seem to still : do well on beam but that is still coached by : the Chinese coach. : : I also noticed on GA website Team Future : girls at the Institutes and the AIS only : have a handful of girls coming through : whereas WAIS, VIS and QAS have a huge pool : of girls. Is the program being phased out : and the AIS will only be used for camps? : : Sorry my thoughts are a bit random but does : anyone have any ideas on what they think is : happening? : : : : : : :