Posted by What's happening? on 30/5/2007, 5:14 pm, in reply to "Re: AIS"
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I had to laugh when I saw all your figures. You have really done your homework haven't you? I stand by my quote that facts only tell part of the story as there can be a whole heap of circumstances why numbers might have been up or down in certain programs (not just the AIS). But once again that is not my point! I was referring to this group of girls and asking what is happening to them. I feel concerned about the following: Hollie - chronic injuries Victoria - returning from most of last year with injuries Claire Xian - lots of injuries Monique Blount - quit, returned, not ready to compete Monique Cowan - not sure, is she returning from injury Casey - quit Hayley Wright - injured, left AIS Others?? Injuries, retirements are normal part of gymnastics but it is the number around the same time that got me asking questions. And I haven't "bashed" anyone. I am just expressing my concern. Sorry if that doesn't fit into your facts and figures. --Previous Message-- : "Facts only tell part of the story and : you have completely missed the point I was : making." : : Facts are the only story and the only way : you can judge these coaches on what is : delivered regarding the number of girls on : the Australian team and what international : results they achieved. Ju Ping was great, : however, the new coach has only been there 2 : years and the results are even better if you : look at the last 2 quads : eg : JU Ping : 2000 1 AIS athlete ( 16% of the team of 6) : 2003 1 AIS athlete ( 16% of the team of 6) : 2004 1 AIS athele ( 16% of the team of 6) : : New Coach : 2005 worlds 1 AIS ( 33% of the team of 3) : 2006 worlds 2 AIS ( 33% of the team of 6) : : So if your arguement is that all these girls : with heaps of potential aren't reaching : expectations you must be really upset with : Ju Pings performance. Or do you really want : to just bash the AIS and its staff because : its a popular hobby of many people on the : board? : : --Previous Message-- : Facts only tell part of the story and you : have : completely missed the point I was making. : : Melody (and the other girls) was already : talented before this coach came along so I : don't agree that she has : "improved" due to him. She : certainly has displayed enormous courage and : determination to come back from her injuries : (as I have already acknowledged). I can't : really comment about Melanie as I don't know : what she was like beforehand. : : My point is that there was a group of : talented girls with enormous potential who : haven't performed to the expectation that : many people had of them. : : I am in no way blaming the girls but the : number of girls who have quit or been : injured since Ju Ping has left does raise : some questions. : : The fact that Hollie requires injury : maintenance is cause for concern. : : The AIS has the benefit from a whole range : of support services so why all the problems. : : The other point is what about the future of : the AIS even for the next quad as they have : so few girls coming up. : : --Previous Message-- : The AIS is performing well. Melanie Jones : and : Melody have improved a lot under the new : head coach. Hollie is under injury : maintainance which is managed by Peggy. For : them to have 3 out of 12 girls in the Worlds : squad and probably 2 out 6 in the team is a : much better result than in previous years : where for example the last 2 olympics they : have only had 1 out 6 selected. : : --Previous Message-- : There has been quite a few (negative) : comments : about the AIS program and it's gymnasts over : the past few weeks. : : It got me thinking about what is happening : there. I have been a fan of the AIS style of : gymnastics over the years and was excited at : the prospects of Monique, Hollie, Melody, : Victoria, Casey and others (I can't remember : now!)coming through. : : They have certainly had their share of : injuries and retirements but they have not : lived up to expectation.(Although I think : Hollie is doing brilliantly on beam and : Melody has made a remarkable comeback).Is : this due to the program, the new head coach : or just bad luck? : : Since Ju Ping has left it just doesn't seem : to have the same standard. No-one seems to : comment on the head coach there - what do : people think of him? The girls seem to still : do well on beam but that is still coached by : the Chinese coach. : : I also noticed on GA website Team Future : girls at the Institutes and the AIS only : have a handful of girls coming through : whereas WAIS, VIS and QAS have a huge pool : of girls. Is the program being phased out : and the AIS will only be used for camps? : : Sorry my thoughts are a bit random but does : anyone have any ideas on what they think is : happening? : : : : : : : : :