Posted by Let the Truth be Told... on 4/1/2007, 11:31 am Then you will see below a serous of Emails made by Mark G. Mark G stating he knew that the Dog "WE GAVE HIM FOR FREE" was a Kennel dog.And needed Scocialization.He will state he knew about it in his Emails. You will Also See there Sad attempt to say the dog I sent him "FOR FREE" was Unstable.And claim all I care about is Money After Giving Them a FREE DOG! These two boys are doing and saying what ever they can Con Cock to try and Discredit us. But at the same time Have dogs from our yard that they are Happy with..They cant say the same thing about me. ----------------- member is offline Joined: Apr 2004 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------- Now Ironheads Reply ------------------------------------ Joined: Oct 2005 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Its done....... Now lets Seek the Truth From Ironheads Own words... Ralph and Jeanie I want to thank you for putting your faith in me and the show of friendship Now you will see what he had to say about her the day he got her. If she changed I would have to say it was His training not her. Again he Clearly Stated, Just Like I told him the Dog was... Caught in a Shameful Lie!Shame on them for Fabricating Lies against another Breeder. And For What Giving them a FREE dog That I was Honest about? Now we will go to Carlos Post Called the Truth, FOR PASSWORD, PLEASE E-MAIL THE BOARD ADMINISTRATOR AT Truebuldog@aol.com While at Ralph's place, I walked up to all of his dogs placed in the yard, to pet them and play with them as well as to take pictures of them! They all welcomed me wagging their tails like they have known me for ever, in the mean time Ralph witnessed it by my side. Nala was never aggressive towards me or anything, as a matter of fact we played for a very good deal of time, I remember it cause I got really muddy out of this. The same story goes with every single dog in his yard. As a matter of fact, when Brian Jules visited Ralph that day they were looking at some other dogs while I was goofing around with Country white(an adult) by myself. The next morning Jeanne had taken out Bossy Girl in put her in a chain. Ralph and I approached this dog and she let me lift her front legs and I scratched her a little bit between them, patted her head, keep in mind all these things were done while I was on my knees. Ralph walked away from me and Bossy Girl to clean his kennels , I walked towards her to play a little bit more with her and at that time Bossy girl started moving back and forth barking at me, because Ralph was not around. Not any other dog in his yard barked at me for that matter. Bossy Girl did not show me her teeth or growled at me, I guess she just did not feel comfortable with a stranger by her for the first time. Can you blame her for protecting her territory?! I don't. ----------- Something else that Needs to be noted.. Something you might Find Interesting, Ironhead Bulldogs http://www.dogresources.com/abrkmaster.html#California
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This is from the Boot Camp board.
Below you will see James Holdman(Fog)and Mark Godinez(Ironhead)Claim we sent them a Nerves dog with no regard to the fact that Mark has children.
But Mark (Ironhead)must of Forgot he made the Emails to me...
Then you will see Carlos Post(the person that drove two days in a car with that same dog and had it with his Family say other wise)Stating that same dog was Very Stable around him and his Wife the days he kept peanut waiting for Mark to pick up his FREE Dog from his home. Carlos also stated the dog was Not at all dog aggressive..
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Good post Heather, I agree 100% After them showing the world what kind of people they are...admitting to being fraudulent and misleading by sending that dog that they new was extremely nervy to a household with children and purposefully and publicly saying the dog was something that it wasnt, and not caring what happened to the people they send the dog to or their kids.... They laughed about it in public. They even tried to sell that dog for money. My friend has an email from Ralph with him tryin to sell it and theres no mention of the dog being nervy in it. That tells everyone what kind of people they are and I never want to be associated with them ever. I hope they get ran out of the breed for this. They deserve the worst. For me on to training my dogs and working with my pards
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Great post , I agree !!!!!!! I am done with the cowards.......points were proven.....and the truth is out and they admitted , all on thier own board mind you......they will allways sell puppies....they will never work thier dogs EVER......and there is no WK strain/line ..."and they sent a me and my kids a accident waiting to happen".......
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Subject: Ralph and Jeanie
Date: 1/16/2007 1:35:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: zenidog2004@hotmail.com
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To: Truebuldog@aol.com
for letting me obtain/own Peanut. And also for holding on to her for so long
while I was trying to get her to my home ! When you could have sold her more
than a few times over to interested parties...I know we (family) will love
her as she is just what the Dr. ordered LoL..short , thick and lovable... I
am not worried at all about lack of socialization issues as I am sure she
has the genitic background/make up , to be a wonderfull girl. Thanks agian
and I am dying in anticapation to get her here !!!!!!!!
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There you go Caught in a Lie.......
That Clearly States I told him BEFORE he got her she/peanut was a Kennel dog that Needed
socialization !
No Folks I didnt send him a Time Bomb as He and James stated!
I told him the dog was stable Like Carlos Stated and Needed Socialization.
The dog was FREE and Mark WANTED HER!
Carlos would agree because she spent a few days at his house.
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Subject: Peanut (Princess)
Date: 1/18/2007 2:53:39 A.M. Eastern Standard Time
From: zenidog2004@hotmail.com
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To: Truebuldog@aol.com
My wife has renamed her Princess........as you can see she is taking to the
house rather well !!! She is very friendy to people and children and is not
dog/b###h/puppy agressive at all. She is out going and inquizitive just
socially unsure of herself...which you explained....and since she is
geniticaly and mentaly stable I should be able to bring her back up to par
no problem !!!!!!! My main concern was agressivness , which is non existant
! so the other issue is nothing. She has already shown drive play so we are
good there.
She is genitically thick !! with a nice rear,rib cage , tuck and chest. I
wil slowly exercise the shit out of her and she should EXPLODE with muscle
!!!! I love her ears (small set) . Her head is a little small but workable !
and she is a little cow hocked BUT i think some of that will straighten out
with the exersize !!!!!! I am very pleased with her over all and love her
size !!!!! Thanks for the opertunity to own this b###h !!! SEND ME THE
PAPERS ITS A DONE DEAL !!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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His Own words !
NOT QUITE WHAT HE AND FOG ARE SAYING NOW!
IS IT?
" She is out going and inquisitive just
socially unsure of herself...which you explained....and since she is
genetically and mentally stable I should be able to bring her back up to par
no problem !!!!!!! My main concern was agressivness , which is non existant
! so the other issue is nothing."
Folks if they can do it to me they can do it to you!
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Posted by carlos on 3/31/2007, 12:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Its simple accept or decline. I couldnt care less what your opinions are."
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Peanut(Pumkin) was at my house after coming from Ralph's place with me in the back of a really small car (Nissan Sentra) from New Jersey to Iowa(about 1200+ miles). Peanut did not show sign of nervousness with me in the motel 6 we stayed in that night. Nor she did show any type of aggression when my wife went outside to look at her. When Mark G.(Ironhead) came to pick her up , we had her together with my two dogs and she got along really well with them in the basement, where we were feeding them dog biscuits. She left my house as a really sweet dog. From there on Ralph and I have no control over Peanut and that is the truth.
Remember Folks If they can do this to me they can do this to YOU!
Marks claim to being over 12 years in this breed and the Person that STARTED Ironhead Kennels.
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