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on 11/7/2009, 2:40 pm, in reply to "Re: GARY"
The Terminator breedings were a success. They were also hybrid breedings for one generation, and then the progeny was linebred on itself, But they were never known as hybrids because the folks who did the breedings lied on the paperwork. Many of those lies still exist in paperwork today. Any registration papers that list a dog named Tappe's Damean, Peltier's Brutus, Outhout's Levi are all really psueudonyms for Terminator. What the Terminator blood did was clean up many of the defects that had been occurrring, such as hip dysplasia. Since Terminator was a scatterbred pit, his influence would not be sufficient to have lasting impact in and of itself. The group had performed some of these breedings, was into dog fighting. The AB had been promoted as a fighting dog, when in reality it was much more of a catchdog and farm utility dog depending on the bloodline. The Mac stuff definately were catchdogs, hogdogs, and catch weight pits, and the Dick stuff were more the farm utility type dog, but also would catch and work cattle. Kershner and Tappe knew a guy through their dog fighting associations named Paul Sofiakas who owned Alligator and Mayfied dogs. He introduced them to Don Mayfield who raised a very pure line of Dibo dogs. I am not going to get into the argument of whether they were good pit dogs by 1990 or not, as there are conflicting reports, as always. Don himself had quit matching his dogs in 1976 with the Animal Cruelty Act. And it is not really important anyway to the influence they had on the AB. There were bred very pure of Tudor's Dibo, and were gentically prepotent to pass those traits on. They were super athletic and had great strutures. Kershner and Tappe bred to a dog named Mayfield's Brasken. That breeding resulted in a dog named Kershner's Outlaw. Most of the clique Kershner had ran with in the 1980's had vanished from the AB world for legal or other reasons by the early 1990's. Kershner was not a popular figure with other AB breeders, as is the case with many breeders themselves these days. There has always been infighting. Being a social butterfly, and being a good dog breeder are two different qualities. One will makea person very popular, and the other will provoke jealousy. That is something that happens across the spectrum of human behaviour in any given field. Anyway, Kershner continued to linebred on the Termator/Painter and Brasken/Painter crosses. The vast majority of those dogs were never bred into the larger "AB genepool" LOL. Anytime an outcross is made and then linebred on a novel genetic struture is created, whether it was Kyle Symmes Modern Johnson/Painter crosses which added size, bone, some man aggression, and terrible hips to the resulting line, or the Kershner hybrids which reduced size, bone, may had added some animal aggression, and put great overall athletic structures into the dogs.
To be continued...
Dave


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