Posted by James
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on 7/11/2012, 6:56 pm, in reply to "Re: for those who say their untrained untested dog will protect them"
Now this is why I like this board, responses like Steve R and Ohio S. Now I'm not blaming man work on making a dog man agressive, I'm blaming the shitty breeders who do man work with their dogs and breed dogs specifically to be better at doing man work. Each generation that you take best protection dog to best protection dog changes your line from what you started with until you have created a line of protection dogs.
I watched and interesting documentary not to far back on man's ability change a species through selective breeding. In Russia they have been running an experiment on a fox farm for the last 50 + years. The foxes by nature are crazy agressive as any wild k9 needs to be in the wild. The experiment was a farmer put on a thick glove and stuck it in the cage a few inches from the fox. If the fox did anything but remain calm (ie: got defensive, bit the glove, ect) they were not allowed to breed. By only allowing foxes that were completely calm to pass on their genes within 3 or 4 generations they had a profoundly different animal. The calm line began producing foxes that were white or with patches while the agressive line remained black. The calm line began to deviate even more by becoming smarter and easier to train while the agressive foxes remained completely unchanged. Fast forward 50+ years with this selective breeding being done using only the original non agressive test as the criteria and they are now breeding foxes that are as domesticated and as different as dogs are from wolves. My point is I agree with OS and SR that training a dog to protect does not change the line. It is the selective breeding to express specific traits that changes the line and eventually the breed. I think the WWEB rule of not allowing dogs to be registered that do any type of human protection work is sound because as breeders of all other breeds have shown they can not be trusted. It's the belief that you have to create a better dog or don't breed it that is actually the problem. By breeding for better you change your line and as the Russian foxes show in a few generations you have a completely different animal from what you started with.


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