
Posted by Matt
(Isaacs) on 1/3/2008, 8:51 pm, in reply to "Good stuff!!!!"
4.245.42.47
I agree 100%. I am just in the beginning stages of my linebreeding/inbreeding program. I have a lot of vision of where I want to go and I know it will take me longer than other people with more dogs, but I am only in my 30's and have plenty of time to put the right dogs together and try to stick to the best of the best. I might be where you are now in about 10 years.
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: Let me just ramble a bit but what do I know?????Here are my thoughts and I don't know
: anything and am still a student!!!JDJ started with twelve to fourteen different
: dogs!That makes a gene pool thats huge in my book!!I had to Wake up to that fact!
: that Huge GENE Pool! is thereason why there is so much "variation in
: breedings" like nephew to aunt or neice to uncle!! Or Full brother to full
: sisiter!!!There shouldn't be any variation in those types of breedings! When you
: breed a full brother to full sister and get one half the litter with Bully heads and
: the other half with longer snouts you know you have some loose lines!Don't you
: think? Has anyone else done this that I don't know? There are not any breeders who
: have gone tight with the 100% Johnson blood besides myself and Tony Mancera and
: unless you go tight you will never know whats in the mix!JMO! With this huge gene
: pool, that makes room for quite a bit of diveresity!Its like hit and miss and a lot
: of luck involved in my opinion! I mean we have Johnson Blood thats loose as a goose
: and people are saying its inbred to death!! Thats a joke!No Offence thats just the
: exact way I think. Sorry if that offends anyone! Pure bred dogs real pure bred dogs
: have 100's of years in line breeding and inbreeding behind them not just 40 years!!!
: think about it!And most of our pure bred dogs don't have anywhere near 12 to 14
: different dogs in the foundation mix!
: We have so much that we can do with the line breeding program that JDJ started.
: JDJ bred for pheno type ,JDJ had a vision of what He wanted a Bulldog to look like
: and then he bred in that direction ,its that simple ,many times JDJ would name a dog
: a Collette even if it didn't come from one of his Collettes! Or he would call a
: Sugar Doll a Sugar Doll even if it didn't come from a Sugar Doll! Why because he
: criss Crossed his lines! Its up to each 100% Johnson Breeder to decide what he wants
: his pheno type to look like and go for it. First looking at the Basics such as
: structure ,hips ,temperment ,with these dogs a breeder can create anything He wants!
: To have consistency you have to bred tight and bred consistent to get that. Unless
: you just want to ride on someone elses shirt tail. To me the best Bulldogs have not
: been bred yet the folks that have the guts to have a vision and line bred and inbred
: these dogs will be the ones who end up producing the next generation of Super Dawgs!
: JMO!
: JDJ had a vision and he set his sights on what he wanted and he went for it! If he
: lives another 100 years he will keep producing better and better dawgs!
: Peace: Mark @ Big Sky
: p.s. I did this in a rush tonight so please don't everyone storm jump me!!LOL!! I'm
: heading to church will check it out when I get back later!
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: First off let me say I am not trying to start a bash someone thread. In that being
: said I have only been in the breed about 5 yrs and only breeding about 1/2 that
: time. I for my own personally knowledge would like to know everyone's view on JDJ
: breeding practices. This and that has been said and I would really like to know the
: truth. I haven't been around long enough to know it but I have been around in this
: world long enough to know when something should have proof. I am really trying to
: learn about the breed and before I make my mind up I would like to know all the
: facts. I came to this board for the answer because I think my best chances of
: getting are here. Thanks in advance.
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