
Posted by Marcus
(MarcusB) on 1/30/2008, 9:35 pm, in reply to "Re: Welcome Aboard Randy"
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It's good to see you here bud. I too love to prove people wrong, when someone tells me it cant be done it drives me. I'm very competitive.
Working weights does not fall into a certain category. There is no blanket all in one correct weight for working dogs. It all depends on what you want the dog to do. I use my dogs to work cattle and property protection, I need large heavy dogs for this.
Mr. Johnson interview:
Dr. J.: "What do you think the ideal size bulldog is?"
John D.: "I have always said that I wanted a bulldog large enough that I could throw a saddle over. I think that the ideal size is really the size that would best suit the job that you want this dog to perform. Since these dogs are primarily used for protection now, I feel that a larger, stronger, heavier boned dog is more suitable for this task."
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: Thank you, Renee and Mark for your frankness. I like the video clip of your dogs
: working the sleeve. Do you still do any sport work? I know that my preference to
: work large dogs is not the most popular, but that's part of the reason why I do it.
: If I wanted the quick and easy "sport" model for protection, I would have
: started with a Malinois. I like challenges and proving people wrong no matter how
: long it takes. I look forward to seeing more working breeders of these Johnson
: Bulldogs.
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: Cheers,
: Randy
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: --Previous Message--
: My thoughts on this entire idea of Politics ,breeding athletic Bulldogs and working
: Bulldogs!
: I had three years of Protection Work put into Big Sky's Zechariah AKA Atomics Dick
: The Brusier and had him ready to do his first BST only to have the guy Rick Quin(Top
: Line Kennels)about three and half years ago say he couldn't find the starter shots
: for his starter pistol and used a twelve gauge shotgun! Well thats politics for you
: bud! The 100% Johnson Large Boys will have to be able to be judged fair and at the
: time I was attempting to trial Zech with the WABA for his BST it was not a fair
: trial to me. And thats not sour grapes coming from me. Most involved in those sports
: like a little more pitty looking Bulldog and judge the Larger Johnson Bulldogs much
: harder! If you can put the dog up under your coat you will most likely be able to
: get a BST on it from the WABA. Of course there are lots of places to get titles on
: your Bulldogs , I just thought I would put that out there. I do not like a fat
: sloopy looking Bulldog and know from experience that you can take these 100% Johnson
: lines to places that they will compete with any breed out there and come out on top
: if bred right!
: You can find that athletic functional Bulldog your looking for in the 100% Johnson
: Blood!
: My "turn on" is putting together a Bulldog that can out work out function
: out whatever any other breed! MY New website is under construction right now it will
: be up and running as soon as my divorce is final. So keep an eye on it I think I
: will have something your looking for. Peace: Mark @ Big Sky
: P.S. Good to have you onboard looking forward to watching your Journey. My cell
: number is 1-270-508-0476 my home number is 1-270-928-2139 I would love talking
: bulldogs especially the working blood! I will say this that these dogs do not need
: protection work in them to protect the only reason I went that direction was because
: I knew these dogs had it I just wanted to shut the mouths of the nasayers! Well
: politics is politics! Won't say anymore right now! If your out in California stop by
: Rose Valley kennels and put a sleeve on for Zech you will see whjat that boy can and
: will do! Hope your a Big Guy! Zech was a handful for men weighing three hundred plus
: pounds of solid muscle in there prime too! I also like a Bulldog weighing in at
: about 105 to 107 lbs!!! working weight!
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: --Previous Message--
: Hello. My name is Randy. I live in Los Angeles where I train my 2 dogs in PSA
: (Protection Sport Association). They are not AB's but they are bully-types. I have
: always been interested in the AB's but was turned off about 10 years ago by the
: politics at the time and the rampant byb that was ruining the bloodlines. I am glad
: to see that things have settled a bit, although in bullies, there will always be
: something going on. I like the positive tone on this board and hope to learn more
: about the Johnson line. I am particularly interested in the largest working lines.
: I believe Johnsons are the largest, right? I talked to Marcus of Surrealbulldogs
: and was wowed by all his dogs. I too feed raw only and have gotten great results.
: I also found Mancera's Bulldogs and they seem to really reward the working dogs. I
: would appreciate any input about this line's average life expectancy, breathing, and
: general health. It seems obvious that they have the necessary prey drive to do
: protection sports but if there are more specifics as to which strains have more
: drive and size, I'd like to know. I thank you for your help in advance.
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: Happy Training,
: Randy
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