
Posted by shane
(southland) on 1/31/2008, 11:48 am, in reply to "Randy"
12.6.24.34
Live and Learn
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: Yes, the two that you saw there will continue to train until they are ready to trial
: or we decide that it is not going to happen. These dogs have a very strong will or
: if you like are hard headed ! We have never had furrys for sport, we started with
: another very hard headed breed. We also LOVE a challenge . You asked for opinions
: and I gave you mine. Perhaps not the most popular opinion, but you know what they
: say about opinions anyway. I wish you well in your endeavors. Happy training......
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: Renee
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: Thank you, Renee and Mark for your frankness. I like the video clip of your dogs
: working the sleeve. Do you still do any sport work? I know that my preference to
: work large dogs is not the most popular, but that's part of the reason why I do it.
: If I wanted the quick and easy "sport" model for protection, I would have
: started with a Malinois. I like challenges and proving people wrong no matter how
: long it takes. I look forward to seeing more working breeders of these Johnson
: Bulldogs.
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: Cheers,
: Randy
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: My thoughts on this entire idea of Politics ,breeding athletic Bulldogs and working
: Bulldogs!
: I had three years of Protection Work put into Big Sky's Zechariah AKA Atomics Dick
: The Brusier and had him ready to do his first BST only to have the guy Rick Quin(Top
: Line Kennels)about three and half years ago say he couldn't find the starter shots
: for his starter pistol and used a twelve gauge shotgun! Well thats politics for you
: bud! The 100% Johnson Large Boys will have to be able to be judged fair and at the
: time I was attempting to trial Zech with the WABA for his BST it was not a fair
: trial to me. And thats not sour grapes coming from me. Most involved in those sports
: like a little more pitty looking Bulldog and judge the Larger Johnson Bulldogs much
: harder! If you can put the dog up under your coat you will most likely be able to
: get a BST on it from the WABA. Of course there are lots of places to get titles on
: your Bulldogs , I just thought I would put that out there. I do not like a fat
: sloopy looking Bulldog and know from experience that you can take these 100% Johnson
: lines to places that they will compete with any breed out there and come out on top
: if bred right!
: You can find that athletic functional Bulldog your looking for in the 100% Johnson
: Blood!
: My "turn on" is putting together a Bulldog that can out work out function
: out whatever any other breed! MY New website is under construction right now it will
: be up and running as soon as my divorce is final. So keep an eye on it I think I
: will have something your looking for. Peace: Mark @ Big Sky
: P.S. Good to have you onboard looking forward to watching your Journey. My cell
: number is 1-270-508-0476 my home number is 1-270-928-2139 I would love talking
: bulldogs especially the working blood! I will say this that these dogs do not need
: protection work in them to protect the only reason I went that direction was because
: I knew these dogs had it I just wanted to shut the mouths of the nasayers! Well
: politics is politics! Won't say anymore right now! If your out in California stop by
: Rose Valley kennels and put a sleeve on for Zech you will see whjat that boy can and
: will do! Hope your a Big Guy! Zech was a handful for men weighing three hundred plus
: pounds of solid muscle in there prime too! I also like a Bulldog weighing in at
: about 105 to 107 lbs!!! working weight!
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: Hello. My name is Randy. I live in Los Angeles where I train my 2 dogs in PSA
: (Protection Sport Association). They are not AB's but they are bully-types. I have
: always been interested in the AB's but was turned off about 10 years ago by the
: politics at the time and the rampant byb that was ruining the bloodlines. I am glad
: to see that things have settled a bit, although in bullies, there will always be
: something going on. I like the positive tone on this board and hope to learn more
: about the Johnson line. I am particularly interested in the largest working lines.
: I believe Johnsons are the largest, right? I talked to Marcus of Surrealbulldogs
: and was wowed by all his dogs. I too feed raw only and have gotten great results.
: I also found Mancera's Bulldogs and they seem to really reward the working dogs. I
: would appreciate any input about this line's average life expectancy, breathing, and
: general health. It seems obvious that they have the necessary prey drive to do
: protection sports but if there are more specifics as to which strains have more
: drive and size, I'd like to know. I thank you for your help in advance.
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: Happy Training,
: Randy
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