
Posted by Red
(SSG Remaley) on 2/26/2008, 8:17 pm, in reply to "Red"
213.132.254.2
Mark I was speaking in general, i did not mention nor reference any particular breeder. We all know there are people/breeders out there that wil name drop or degrade people for their own profit or benefit. It was a general statement that is why I used the word "they". I could filp it like someone did on me and say "I must have hit a nerve" but I am not here to fight. As others have said I am just stateing what I believe in and that is the actions of a man speak much , much louder than his mouth can ever speak.
Congrats on you new family and I wish you well Mark.
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: Did I miss something? Did I slander anyone? Because I believe Breeders who do n0ot
: check hips are a huge part of the problem I slandered someone? I also agree
: Character is very important and what a person does with there Program speaks about
: his or her character to me! I don't care how many puppies they replace! You see it
: as slander speaking what I believe about a breeding program? So I should just shut
: my mouth and look the other way?
: What are you saying then what I see as a problem just make like its not a problem
: please explain? Mark
: P.S. Your right it is what it is!
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: My dog does not have bad hips, tested in the median. Did not say I would not use
: Penn
: Hip Stated that I have and planned on it. Not believing that there are people out
: there that been around long enough to know if a dog has problems or not is like
: denying ones grandmothers home remedies cause their are pills to take instead. Not
: believing the newbie’s should spend as much time possible with the veterans of the
: breed (sitting on the porch) is like not taking advantage of a source of knowledge.
: I stated that I believe that after generational usage of the Penn hip that it
: could/would improve hip scores. It is a good tool but not the only tool.
: I was not talking sh... about newbie's cause I still classify myself as one, 3 yrs
: in and still learning, no rush. Are you telling me that after so many litters, and
: so many tested dogs that you could not tell hips without an x-ray? You have to admit
: that people breeding so quickly without learning about the breed is a big cause of
: bad hipped dogs being breed. To many people jumping with both feet without knowing
: how deep the water is. My point in this whole thing is not to judge people by how
: they evaluate their dogs because whether they test them or not, it does not speak on
: the character of the person. We will have to agree to disagree. “I” will always deal
: with people on the character level. I would much rather buy a dog from a breeder who
: may not use Pennhipp and I trust their integrity and honesty; I trust that they will
: be there for me as a “newbie” and answer questions. I trust that they will not
: slander me for seeking advice or after trying to do good by them or helping them
: out. A mans character will always “ALWAYS” come before some scientific study. At the
: end of the day that is what matters. Good hips, bad hips, no hips if a breeder’s
: word is no good what good is the Penn Hip.
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: It is what it is Mark. I would rather lose money on a man of integrity then to make
: money with a man of no morals.
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: "To be persuasive we must be believable; to be believable we must be credible;
: credible we must be truthful."
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