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Posted by dok on 2/13/2012, 3:51 pm, in reply to "I seriously have to disagree with that"
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i said most of his tones, not all. what i'm referring to is the pseudo-large-arena-echoey-guitar tone on shit like 'pride,' 'still haven't found what i'm looking for,' etc. even to a lesser degree, you can hear how it permeated into a lot of their other hits from the 80s.

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What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Trung 2/13/2012, 2:09 am
- Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Nolol 2/13/2012, 3:21 am
  - Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Trung 2/13/2012, 4:28 am
    - That or Plans - Nolol 2/13/2012, 10:13 am
      - "Plans" is a groovy album - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 11:00 pm
        
        I don't really understand why so many people hate Narrow Stairs - Nolol 2/14/2012, 12:07 am
        
        How about.... - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 12:14 am
        
        Re: How about.... - Nolol 2/14/2012, 12:28 am
    - ok i'll go ahead and say it, then - dok 2/13/2012, 10:50 am
      - Eh, I used to agree - Nolol 2/13/2012, 11:35 am
        
        Re: Eh, I used to agree - Trung 2/13/2012, 12:52 pm
        
        Re: Eh, I used to agree - dok 2/13/2012, 1:12 pm
        
        The DOK's rant basically sums up my feelings on Bono - Nolol 2/13/2012, 2:16 pm
        
        I seriously have to disagree with that - Trung 2/13/2012, 2:20 pm
        
        you're missing what i'm saying - dok 2/13/2012, 3:42 pm
        
        For the record... - Nolol 2/13/2012, 6:54 pm
        
        Boy is my favourite - Trung 2/13/2012, 8:34 pm
        
        Boy is good, as is October - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:44 am
        
        I'm still missing how hei s a hypocrite - Trung 2/13/2012, 8:55 pm
        
        idk how you're not getting it - dok 2/13/2012, 9:49 pm
        
        Re: idk how you're not getting it - Trung 2/13/2012, 11:00 pm
        
        I'm just going to add one other thing - Nolol 2/13/2012, 11:24 pm
        
        I just don't see the "moral superiority" - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:14 am
        
        Re: I just don't see the "moral superiority" - dok 2/14/2012, 9:14 am
        
        I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - Trung 2/14/2012, 4:01 pm
        
        I find Oasis incredibly obnoxious personally - Nolol 2/14/2012, 4:11 pm
        
        Iti s pretentious - Trung 2/14/2012, 4:44 pm
        
        I do too - Nolol 2/14/2012, 5:01 pm
        
        The pretension is much more evident in the DVD - Trung 2/14/2012, 5:25 pm
        
        By the way no coincident that Love Rescue Me is co-written by Bob Dylan? (nt) Re: I do too - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:00 pm
        
        Probably not - Nolol 2/15/2012, 12:05 am
        
        "Rattle and Hum" - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 8:54 pm
        
        Have you heard Oasis' later albums? - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 8:56 pm
        
        Re: Have you heard Oasis' later albums? - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:18 pm
        
        Their swan song DIg Out Of Your Soul is also interesting as well - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:44 pm
        
        No, they didn't really rip off The Beatles - Nolol 2/15/2012, 12:46 am
        
        I felt at the beginning they were more influenced by glam rock then the beatles - Trung 2/15/2012, 9:07 am
        
        Don't forget "Shakermaker" - Howard the Duck 2/16/2012, 2:57 am
        
        Some of the songs on "Heathen Chemistry" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 6:41 am
        
        From SOTSOG onwards the Beatles rip-off were valid - Trung 2/15/2012, 7:17 am
        
        to sum it all up - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 7:34 am
        
        Is it really posing when you are doing it for artistic reasons - Trung 2/15/2012, 7:43 am
        
        I mean as in "not being what you are" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 8:11 am
        
        It is as much as an album as Past Master is - Trung 2/15/2012, 8:34 am
        
        I'd never for the life of me consider "Past Masters" - Howard the Duck 2/16/2012, 2:58 am
        
        For the record, Tom Waits gives the most hilarious interviews ever (nt) - Nolol 2/15/2012, 10:58 am
        
        Re: I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - dok 2/14/2012, 4:18 pm
        
        Re: I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - Trung 2/14/2012, 4:36 pm
        
        Re: I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - dok 2/14/2012, 4:43 pm
        
        Agreed - Nolol 2/14/2012, 5:02 pm
        
        I wholly believe in the "salvation" of rock n roll - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 8:52 pm
        
        Something like that - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:07 pm
        
        holy shit - dok 2/14/2012, 12:01 am
        
        i never mix the personality of the singer with the music - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 11:01 pm
        
        Re: i never mix the personality of the singer with the music - dok 2/13/2012, 11:56 pm
        
        For the Fall - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 12:16 am
        
        Re: For the Fall - dok 2/14/2012, 9:17 am
        
        I partly agree - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:25 am
        
        even if it seeps to the lyrics - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:42 am
        
        make no mistake - dok 2/14/2012, 9:20 am
        
        Re: I'm still missing how hei s a hypocrite - dok 2/13/2012, 9:56 pm
        
        Sorry I didn't explain that point very clearly - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:06 am
        
        also - dok 2/13/2012, 3:51 pm
        
        Re: also - Trung 2/13/2012, 8:42 pm
        
        not talking about his playing style - dok 2/13/2012, 9:50 pm
        
        he mostly ripped-off the "chord fragment" thing in jazz - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:51 pm
        
        I probably should listen to more jazz - Trung 2/14/2012, 2:07 am
        
        yes, it's unique only nobody put a delay to it - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:39 am
        
        Sheesh, you should expand your horizons beyond Pink Floyd - Mod Lang 2/14/2012, 11:20 am
        
        Hey I did mention verlaine and Summers - Trung 2/14/2012, 3:48 pm
        
        John Lydon's ex-Pistols band - Mod Lang 2/14/2012, 4:12 pm
        
        Keith Levene's style is angular and discordant - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 10:27 pm
        
        Same here - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:41 pm
      - Maybe you'll find some humour in this - Trung 2/13/2012, 12:16 pm
- Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Mr. X 2/13/2012, 5:59 am
  - Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Trung 2/13/2012, 6:27 am
    - "It's Hard" is highly underrated - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:54 pm
- Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 7:02 am
  - a-Ha as a folk rock band.. I guess a learn a new thing every day (nt) - Trung 2/13/2012, 1:04 pm
  - That's a good one - Ken 2/13/2012, 7:43 pm
- Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - John Mc 2/13/2012, 7:09 am
  - i guess i could agree - dok 2/13/2012, 9:40 am
    - Re: i guess i could agree - Trung 2/13/2012, 1:03 pm
      - It's not underrated, just overlooked - Nolol 2/13/2012, 2:17 pm
        
        Re: It's not underrated, just overlooked - Trung 2/13/2012, 2:51 pm
        
        I don't know what classic rock radio is like there... - Nolol 2/13/2012, 3:10 pm
        
        We have one semi-classic rock station and that's about it - Trung 2/14/2012, 2:24 am
        
        I think it's just a cultural difference, then - Nolol 2/14/2012, 10:28 am
        
        Judging by this article here, I don't think it would be too long for it to happen to you guys as wel - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:32 pm
        
        Yeah, I read that - Nolol 2/15/2012, 12:09 am
        
        We have a sort of classic rock mixed with business news station - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 6:34 am
    - Meddle/Animals are their best - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:53 pm
      - I always thought the melodies were the strong point of Pipers - Trung 2/14/2012, 2:31 am
        
        They're not that properly fleshed out, I think - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:48 am
        
        I quite like Syd's solo career - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:39 pm
- Rush - Ken 2/13/2012, 7:50 pm
  - Re: Rush - Prog Fanatic 2/14/2012, 3:33 pm
  - Re: Rush - Nolol 2/14/2012, 4:15 pm
- "Zooropa" is their best album. Period. - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:49 pm
  - It was my favourite U2 album for a long time - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:57 am
    - Probably will check it out - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:40 am
- The Beatles - Nescio 2/14/2012, 4:28 am
  - Yes, you've explained the "overrated" part - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:56 am
    - Re: Yes, you've explained the "overrated" part - Nescio 2/14/2012, 9:21 am
  - The Velvet Underground - Mod Lang 2/14/2012, 11:23 am
    - Re: The Velvet Underground - Anton J 2/14/2012, 11:47 am
      - Re: The Velvet Underground - John Mc 2/14/2012, 4:30 pm
    - In my mind they are just overrated - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:20 pm
      - Most people seem to confuse "seminality" with "rating" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 6:37 am
        
        There biggest contribution to rock music - Trung 2/15/2012, 8:00 am
        
        Re: There biggest contribution to rock music - Nolol 2/15/2012, 10:56 am
        
        well i do like both live albums "1969" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 10:54 pm
        
        Re: There biggest contribution to rock music - KiddAbout 3/5/2012, 7:43 pm
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--Previous Message-- : i said most of his tones, not all. what i'm : referring to is the : pseudo-large-arena-echoey-guitar tone on : shit like 'pride,' 'still haven't found what : i'm looking for,' etc. even to a lesser : degree, you can hear how it permeated into a : lot of their other hits from the 80s. :

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