Most people seem to confuse "seminality" with "rating"

Posted by Howard the Duck on 2/15/2012, 6:37 am, in reply to "In my mind they are just overrated"
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yes, they were mostly responsible for indie and alt, but as with most people, I only really love "And Nico" the rest are pretty hit or miss --Previous Message-- : I'm with Prindle on this one. Apart from : listening to the album as a historical : document, I just don't see much value in : them. : : --Previous Message-- : Do I need to elaborate the reasons? It : should : be pretty obvious: a massive : critics/hipsters vs. the general public : divide, one of which horrendously overrates : them, and a public that vaguely recognizes : who Lou Reed is. : : : : :

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Message Thread | Skip to this response ↓ What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Trung 2/13/2012, 2:09 am Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Nolol 2/13/2012, 3:21 am Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Trung 2/13/2012, 4:28 am That or Plans - Nolol 2/13/2012, 10:13 am "Plans" is a groovy album - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 11:00 pm I don't really understand why so many people hate Narrow Stairs - Nolol 2/14/2012, 12:07 am How about.... - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 12:14 am Re: How about.... - Nolol 2/14/2012, 12:28 am ok i'll go ahead and say it, then - dok 2/13/2012, 10:50 am Eh, I used to agree - Nolol 2/13/2012, 11:35 am Re: Eh, I used to agree - Trung 2/13/2012, 12:52 pm Re: Eh, I used to agree - dok 2/13/2012, 1:12 pm The DOK's rant basically sums up my feelings on Bono - Nolol 2/13/2012, 2:16 pm I seriously have to disagree with that - Trung 2/13/2012, 2:20 pm you're missing what i'm saying - dok 2/13/2012, 3:42 pm For the record... - Nolol 2/13/2012, 6:54 pm Boy is my favourite - Trung 2/13/2012, 8:34 pm Boy is good, as is October - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:44 am I'm still missing how hei s a hypocrite - Trung 2/13/2012, 8:55 pm idk how you're not getting it - dok 2/13/2012, 9:49 pm Re: idk how you're not getting it - Trung 2/13/2012, 11:00 pm I'm just going to add one other thing - Nolol 2/13/2012, 11:24 pm I just don't see the "moral superiority" - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:14 am Re: I just don't see the "moral superiority" - dok 2/14/2012, 9:14 am I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - Trung 2/14/2012, 4:01 pm I find Oasis incredibly obnoxious personally - Nolol 2/14/2012, 4:11 pm Iti s pretentious - Trung 2/14/2012, 4:44 pm I do too - Nolol 2/14/2012, 5:01 pm The pretension is much more evident in the DVD - Trung 2/14/2012, 5:25 pm By the way no coincident that Love Rescue Me is co-written by Bob Dylan? (nt) Re: I do too - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:00 pm Probably not - Nolol 2/15/2012, 12:05 am "Rattle and Hum" - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 8:54 pm Have you heard Oasis' later albums? - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 8:56 pm Re: Have you heard Oasis' later albums? - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:18 pm Their swan song DIg Out Of Your Soul is also interesting as well - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:44 pm No, they didn't really rip off The Beatles - Nolol 2/15/2012, 12:46 am I felt at the beginning they were more influenced by glam rock then the beatles - Trung 2/15/2012, 9:07 am Don't forget "Shakermaker" - Howard the Duck 2/16/2012, 2:57 am Some of the songs on "Heathen Chemistry" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 6:41 am From SOTSOG onwards the Beatles rip-off were valid - Trung 2/15/2012, 7:17 am to sum it all up - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 7:34 am Is it really posing when you are doing it for artistic reasons - Trung 2/15/2012, 7:43 am I mean as in "not being what you are" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 8:11 am It is as much as an album as Past Master is - Trung 2/15/2012, 8:34 am I'd never for the life of me consider "Past Masters" - Howard the Duck 2/16/2012, 2:58 am For the record, Tom Waits gives the most hilarious interviews ever (nt) - Nolol 2/15/2012, 10:58 am Re: I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - dok 2/14/2012, 4:18 pm Re: I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - Trung 2/14/2012, 4:36 pm Re: I think a bit of context is necessary for the "holy" - dok 2/14/2012, 4:43 pm Agreed - Nolol 2/14/2012, 5:02 pm I wholly believe in the "salvation" of rock n roll - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 8:52 pm Something like that - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:07 pm holy shit - dok 2/14/2012, 12:01 am i never mix the personality of the singer with the music - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 11:01 pm Re: i never mix the personality of the singer with the music - dok 2/13/2012, 11:56 pm For the Fall - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 12:16 am Re: For the Fall - dok 2/14/2012, 9:17 am I partly agree - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:25 am even if it seeps to the lyrics - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:42 am make no mistake - dok 2/14/2012, 9:20 am Re: I'm still missing how hei s a hypocrite - dok 2/13/2012, 9:56 pm Sorry I didn't explain that point very clearly - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:06 am also - dok 2/13/2012, 3:51 pm Re: also - Trung 2/13/2012, 8:42 pm not talking about his playing style - dok 2/13/2012, 9:50 pm he mostly ripped-off the "chord fragment" thing in jazz - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:51 pm I probably should listen to more jazz - Trung 2/14/2012, 2:07 am yes, it's unique only nobody put a delay to it - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:39 am Sheesh, you should expand your horizons beyond Pink Floyd - Mod Lang 2/14/2012, 11:20 am Hey I did mention verlaine and Summers - Trung 2/14/2012, 3:48 pm John Lydon's ex-Pistols band - Mod Lang 2/14/2012, 4:12 pm Keith Levene's style is angular and discordant - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 10:27 pm Same here - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:41 pm Maybe you'll find some humour in this - Trung 2/13/2012, 12:16 pm Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Mr. X 2/13/2012, 5:59 am Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Trung 2/13/2012, 6:27 am "It's Hard" is highly underrated - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:54 pm Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 7:02 am a-Ha as a folk rock band.. I guess a learn a new thing every day (nt) - Trung 2/13/2012, 1:04 pm That's a good one - Ken 2/13/2012, 7:43 pm Re: What band do you consider to be simultaneously overrated and underrated? - John Mc 2/13/2012, 7:09 am i guess i could agree - dok 2/13/2012, 9:40 am Re: i guess i could agree - Trung 2/13/2012, 1:03 pm It's not underrated, just overlooked - Nolol 2/13/2012, 2:17 pm Re: It's not underrated, just overlooked - Trung 2/13/2012, 2:51 pm I don't know what classic rock radio is like there... - Nolol 2/13/2012, 3:10 pm We have one semi-classic rock station and that's about it - Trung 2/14/2012, 2:24 am I think it's just a cultural difference, then - Nolol 2/14/2012, 10:28 am Judging by this article here, I don't think it would be too long for it to happen to you guys as wel - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:32 pm Yeah, I read that - Nolol 2/15/2012, 12:09 am We have a sort of classic rock mixed with business news station - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 6:34 am Meddle/Animals are their best - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:53 pm I always thought the melodies were the strong point of Pipers - Trung 2/14/2012, 2:31 am They're not that properly fleshed out, I think - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:48 am I quite like Syd's solo career - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:39 pm Rush - Ken 2/13/2012, 7:50 pm Re: Rush - Prog Fanatic 2/14/2012, 3:33 pm Re: Rush - Nolol 2/14/2012, 4:15 pm "Zooropa" is their best album. Period. - Howard the Duck 2/13/2012, 10:49 pm It was my favourite U2 album for a long time - Trung 2/14/2012, 1:57 am Probably will check it out - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:40 am The Beatles - Nescio 2/14/2012, 4:28 am Yes, you've explained the "overrated" part - Howard the Duck 2/14/2012, 5:56 am Re: Yes, you've explained the "overrated" part - Nescio 2/14/2012, 9:21 am The Velvet Underground - Mod Lang 2/14/2012, 11:23 am Re: The Velvet Underground - Anton J 2/14/2012, 11:47 am Re: The Velvet Underground - John Mc 2/14/2012, 4:30 pm In my mind they are just overrated - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:20 pm Most people seem to confuse "seminality" with "rating" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 6:37 am There biggest contribution to rock music - Trung 2/15/2012, 8:00 am Re: There biggest contribution to rock music - Nolol 2/15/2012, 10:56 am well i do like both live albums "1969" - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 10:54 pm Re: There biggest contribution to rock music - KiddAbout 3/5/2012, 7:43 pm « Back to index

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