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Re: Objectively, yes

Posted by Trung on 2/15/2012, 1:55 pm, in reply to "Objectively, yes"
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That's only partly true and early CD's when it was first invented and people didn't take it seriously could objectively tell the difference between cd and vinyl due to poor conversion of analog to digital.

however nowadays with advantage in technology such as dither and anti-aliasing filters the re really is no audible difference in quality.

Also understand that when putting a needle on a vinyl, you are producing distortion and the total distortion has been proven to be higher in vinyl then on CD.

http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Myths_%28Vinyl%29

I don't think there has been any blinded trials where people could tell the difference between vinyl and cd.

With something like mp3 vs flac, or 24 bit vs 16 bit there have been demonstrated cases of people being able to pick out the better quality recording (although those people are in the minority) but from my knowledge, I haven't seen one with vinyl vs Cd yet (of course without the crackles and pops on the vinyl).

This contrast to the real audible crackles and pops from vinyl due to long term use and the greater dynamic ranges of CD. Really if anyone listen to classical music, it's pretty much a must to listen to it on CD.

--Previous Message--
: Music recorded to analog tape and then put on
: a vinyl record has no bitrate giving it an
: infinitely higher resolution than any CD or
: digital format.
:
: However this is not the case with music
: recorded digitally and then put onto record,
: those could have the same resolution on both
: CD and vinyl (maybe sometimes higher on
: vinyl due to normal CDs being limited to
: 16-bit).
:
: Subjectively however, if you can't hear the
: difference then who cares, listen to what
: you want.
:
: I listen to a lot of vinyl myself because I
: like the big artwork and the often different
: masterings and bonuses they sometimes throw
: in. But I also listen to a crap-ton of MP3s
: as well.
:

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Does Vinyl really sound better then CD? - Prog Fanatic 2/14/2012, 5:13 pm
- No. - Yuiox 2/14/2012, 11:04 pm
- There have been blinded test doen on this - Trung 2/14/2012, 11:12 pm
  - this is a good point - dave 2/15/2012, 4:55 am
- Re: Does Vinyl really sound better then CD? - dok 2/15/2012, 12:04 am
  - wait - dave 2/15/2012, 4:57 am
    - A blind test normally challenge FLAC supporters - Trung 2/15/2012, 5:43 am
    - yes - dok 2/15/2012, 7:31 am
      - Question for you, DOK (or anybody who might know) - Nolol 2/15/2012, 2:40 pm
        
        Doesn't exist - Ken 2/15/2012, 9:19 pm
        
        Alright - Nolol 2/15/2012, 9:38 pm
        
        you'll have to re-rip it, sad to say - dok 2/16/2012, 11:06 am
        
        Yep - Ken 2/16/2012, 12:45 pm
        
        Oh, there's a big surprise. (nt) - Gilbert Gottfried 2/17/2012, 8:27 am
        
        Re: Question for you, DOK (or anybody who might know) - dok 2/15/2012, 10:23 pm
- Not in and of itself, no - Nolol 2/15/2012, 12:08 am
- no idea - Howard the Duck 2/15/2012, 6:39 am
  - Objectively, yes - Ken 2/15/2012, 1:11 pm
    - Re: Objectively, yes - Trung 2/15/2012, 1:55 pm
      - I wasn't talking about audiable differences - Ken 2/15/2012, 9:52 pm
    - Should be under the main post BTW (nt) - Ken 2/15/2012, 2:17 pm
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--Previous Message-- : That's only partly true and early CD's when it : was first invented and people didn't take : it seriously could objectively tell the : difference between cd and vinyl due to poor : conversion of analog to digital. : : however nowadays with advantage in : technology such as dither and anti-aliasing : filters the re really is no audible : difference in quality. : : Also understand that when putting a needle : on a vinyl, you are producing distortion and : the total distortion has been proven to be : higher in vinyl then on CD. : : : http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Myths_%28Vinyl%29 : : I don't think there has been any blinded : trials where people could tell the : difference between vinyl and cd. : : With something like mp3 vs flac, or 24 bit : vs 16 bit there have been demonstrated cases : of people being able to pick out the better : quality recording (although those people are : in the minority) but from my knowledge, I : haven't seen one with vinyl vs Cd yet (of : course without the crackles and pops on the : vinyl). : : This contrast to the real audible crackles : and pops from vinyl due to long term use and : the greater dynamic ranges of CD. Really if : anyone listen to classical music, it's : pretty much a must to listen to it on CD. : : : --Previous Message-- : Music recorded to analog tape and then put : on : a vinyl record has no bitrate giving it an : infinitely higher resolution than any CD or : digital format. : : However this is not the case with music : recorded digitally and then put onto record, : those could have the same resolution on both : CD and vinyl (maybe sometimes higher on : vinyl due to normal CDs being limited to : 16-bit). : : Subjectively however, if you can't hear the : difference then who cares, listen to what : you want. : : I listen to a lot of vinyl myself because I : like the big artwork and the often different : masterings and bonuses they sometimes throw : in. But I also listen to a crap-ton of MP3s : as well. : : :

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