Posted by Fwiffo on 3/21/2012, 6:20 pm, in reply to "Kate Bush?"
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Is Kate Bush the potential ***** artist just because George gave her first album a 13? (so The Dreaming can conceivably be either a 14 or 15?) I don't think John's ratings correspond fully with George's anymore lately.
--Previous Message--
: I find it hard to believe that he would rate
: Kate Bush higher than Peter Gabriel, but I
: guess it's possible. Aerial is a messy
: double album after all.
:
: --Previous Message--
: 5 stars - Kate Bush
: 4 stars - Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder and
: Joy Division
:
: The rest seems about right. I just think
: Kate Bush she represents the melodic, poppy
: and yet at the same time complex and
: atmospheric music that seems to resonate
: with John. When it comes to artist that
: induce imagery, she seems to be the best out
: of the artist in the itinery. In any case,
: what kind of person with an art rock bias
: doesn't have a 5 star art rock artist (even
: if the Beatles and The who dabbled with art
: rock).
:
: Paul McCartney as John does seems to be
: rather neutral in the whole Lennon/McCartney
: and the "favourite Beatles" debate
: and therefore match rating with John Lennon.
:
: Joy Division as it is the group that
: represent post-punk and John mention he
: would love to cover a lot of post punk
: artist when the itinery is finish. I admit
: I'm just running with a single post in
: George's site but I think there's a certain
: ethereal and atmospheric nature to their
: music that may well appeal with John. Sparks
: could be a alternative due to their
: diversity but I don't think they have the
: emotional resonance to get the 4 star
: rating.
:
: Although I have to say that I simply don't
: get Stevie wonder (Apparently I'm a ####ing
: white supremecist idiot) and just predicted
: the four star artist to match the ratings
: with George. He may have moved away from
: the George's clone label but there's still
: significant overlap of taste between the
: two.
:
:
: --Previous Message--
: I know we've had some disagreements over Tom
: Waits, but on the up-side, I predicted them!
: In fact, I correctly predicted that both
: Television and Tom Waits would be 3-star
: artists, after John's latest cryptical
: outing.
: Regarding which, here's the updated
: situation:
:
: Among the bands currently on the itinerary
: these ratings will be distributed:
:
: 1-star: 7
: 2-star: 4
: 3-star: 15
: 4-star: 3
: 5-star: 1
:
: And here's my new guesses.
:
: 1-star - The Nice, Big Star, Neutral Milk
: Hotel, Pearl Jam, The Stone Roses, Jefferson
: Airplane, The Buggles
:
: 2-star - Love, Tom Petty, Peter Hammill, Van
: Halen
:
: 3-star - ABBA, Renaissance, Joy Division,
: Nirvana, George Harrison, Sly & The
: Family Stone, XTC, Steve Hackett, Pixies,
: Steely Dan, The Beach Boys, U2, Simon &
: Garfunkel, Ween, Kate Bush
:
: 4-star - Elvis Costello, Sparks, Paul
: McCartney
:
: 5-star - Stevie Wonder
:
: It's mostly the same, except for taking into
: greater consideration John's love for
: sprawling messy double albums, which
: accounts for putting Stevie Wonder as the
: 5-star (even if I still feel uneasy about,
: but hey, someone's gotta be up there), as
: well as moving up George Harrison and Elvis
: Costello a category each (and downgrading
: Van Halen and Kate Bush, the first because I
: don't know why I thought John would give
: them 3 stars in the first place, and the
: second because I love her and John's a jerk,
: ergo).
:
: I feel fairly confident about the 1 and 2
: star artists (perhaps wrongly) but the 3/4
: star ones are a real bother.
: At least I'm just about 99% sure Big Star
: will only be a 1-star, which we'll find
: about soon enough.
:
: A few notes to keep in mind, because if I
: don't mention them someone else always does:
:
: 1. Yes, John posted his Top 100 (or
: whatever) at some point, but it's
: drastically outdated.
:
: 2. Yes, Brian Wilson's Smile appeared on
: high (quite high, 40 or something I
: believe), and yes, John has stated he
: prefers it over the recently released The
: Smile Sessions .
:
: 3. No, the rating of a Brian Wilson solo
: album will not count towards the overall
: rating of The Beach Boys (which should mean
: it can't possibly be an F or E).
:
: 4. Keep in mind, getting a single F-rated
: album is not in and of itself enough for 5
: stars, you need a second album with an
: E-rating (actually it's even more
: complicated than that, and John promised to
: post the function he uses at one point, but
: never did).
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