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"We have concluded that when the principle of racial division (i.e. phyletism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics." Constantinople...1872 * Pray and Work for Orthodox Unity in North America!!! * St. Andrew House announces Agreement to fund Orthodox Unity effort for years to come - see www.orthodoxdetroit.com * Welcome to the St. Andrew House Discussion Forum * Coming Soon - Orthodox Business Directory * Visit our Home Page at www.orthodoxdetroit.com

    Re: Anyone believing...

    Posted by Fr. George (FrGeorge) on 3/6/2007, 12:38 pm, in reply to "Re: Anyone believing..."

    Well, Dean, I guess we just don't agree on this one.

    You are assuming that this operation is market-driven, but I see this as a non-for-profit. Nobody has to buy widgets in order to balance the investment. All their really needs to be is the appearance of interest in order to attract donors.

    If the 'product' doesn't motivate donors, then it will fold. Remember, Nielsen rations don't apply here: there will be no independent way to track listenership. Boeing and Airbus have balance sheets that AFR and 'HelleAmerica' don't/won't have.

    Most of us know that the donor potential of the Orthodox has not even been scratched. Part of it is pathological, another is sociological, while another still is simply a lack of organization (man, do we have that down!).

    So, if people want to give their money to others to play with, let them do so if it makes them happy. If living in a monastery with no electricity or indoor plumbing makes you happy, do it. If you think being an investment banker will bring you satisfaction, I'm all for it.

    My experience is that being close to God makes me happy, and so I follow Him and He takes me places (when I don't mess things up). If I had money to donate, I would find ministries that I'd think are genuine.

    I don't lecture people about their greed from the comfort of a 28,000 square foot house, nor do I begrudge the man who owns such a house. It just isn't my call since I gave up being a god.


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