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    dreaming: heirarchical districts 66

    Posted by Photini Email on 7/28/2007, 11:00 am, in reply to "Re: Repose of Abp Kyrill"

    Some corrections and some rearrangements were sent me ... there was also
    some considerations vis a vis the amenability of the hierarchs covering all
    typikons in his territory (with consults from brother hierarchs vis a vis
    experience re calendar, hierarchical liturgies in the unfamiliar typikon, and of
    course, the possible loss of the class of subdeacons/altar boys, which is
    supposed if uniform typikons are mandated in any particular diocesan
    territory/state, and the uniformity of the English translation in that state,
    hoping for a referendum of all the hierarchs eventually for one English
    translation at least on this side of the globe.

    As to typikon, I asked if there was just generally two basics with variations on
    the themes -- St Sabbas and the Great Studion, the two calendars with the
    Chalcedonian churches?

    Someone was also remembering a reference to the Antiochians, OCA and
    Greeks having already divided up the continent, however, if anyone else
    knows of this, it would be great to have a site, because that at least means
    there's been some headway into addressing the chaos in America without the
    impudence of lay dreamers.

    Anyway, the revised list is below -- stripped of any nominees ... present total
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    In Christ,

    Photini

    OCA
    1. The Most Blessed Herman (OCA Primate)
    2. Dmitri Archbishop of Dallas and the South
    3. Nathaniel Archbishop of Detroit and the Romanian Episcopate
    4. Job Archbishop of Chicago and the Midwest
    5. Seraphim Archbishop of Ottawa and Canada
    6. Nikolai Bishop of Sitka, Anchorage and Alaska
    7. Nikon Bishop of Boston, New England,and the Albanian Archdiocese
    8. Tikhon Bishop of Philadelphia and Eastern Pennsylvania
    9. Benjamin Bishop of San Francisco and the West
    10. Alejo Bishop of Mexico City
    Retired Bishops
    11. Theodosius Retired Archbishop of Washington
    12. Peter Former Archbishop of New York and New Jersey
    13. Gregory Former ArchBishop of Sitka and Alaska
    14. Lazar Former Archbishop of Ottawa
    15. Tikhon Former Bishop of San Francisco, Los Angeles and the West
    16. Mark Former Bishop of Boston
    17. Varlaam Former Bishop of Vancouver
    18. Seraphim Sigrist
    19. Kyrill (Yonchev) of Pittsburgh (deceased) Bulgarian OCA
    20. Irineu, Bishop of Dearborn Heights

    EP/GOA
    21. Archbishop Demetrios of America
    22. Iakovos of Chicago
    23. Dmitri of Chicago (assistant to Met Iakavos)
    23. Maximos of Pittsburgh
    24. Methodios of Boston
    25. Isaiah of Denver
    26. Alexios of Atlanta
    27. Nicholas of Detroit
    28. Gerasimos of San Francisco
    29. Evangelos of New Jersey
    30. Anthimos (S.F.)
    31. And Bishop John of Amorion?
    32. Bishop Dimitrios of Xanthe?
    33. Metropolitan Nikitas, formerly of Hong Kong, soon the director
    of the Patriarch Athenagoras Center in Berkeley, CA?
    34. Paisios of Astoria (GOA)
    35. Vikentios of Astoria (GOA
    36. Sotirios of Canada (GOA)

    (EP/GOA) Albanian
    37. Ilia Katre Bishop of Philimelion

    (EP/GOA) Carpatho Russian
    38. Nicholas: Johnstown, PA 15906.

    (EP/GOA) Ukrainian
    39. Constantine,
    40. Antony,
    41. Vsevolod of Skopelos
    42. Yurij Archbishop of Toronto.

    Antiochian
    43. PHILIP (Saliba) of All North America,
    44. ANTOUN (Khouri) of the Diocese of Miami and the Southeast
    45. BASIL Essey) of the Diocese of Wichita and Mid-America
    46. JOSEPH (Al-Zehlaoui) of the Diocese of Los Angeles
    47. THOMAS (Joseph) of the Diocese of Charleston, Oakland, and the
    Mid-Atlantic
    48. MARK (Maymon) of the Diocese of Toledo and the Midwest
    49. ALEXANDER (Mufarrij) of the Diocese of Ottawa, Eastern Canada,
    and Upstate New York

    Bulgarian Patriarchate
    50. Joseph Metropolitan

    Jerusalem Patriarchate
    51. Metropolitan Ambrosios of the Jerusalem Patriarchate living on
    Long Island?

    Romanian Patriarchate
    52.Nicolae, and
    53. his vicar bishop Ioan Casian ?

    Serbian Patriarchate
    54. Christopher Chicago
    55. Mitrophan Eastern Diocese
    56. Jovan Western Diocese
    57. Serbian Bishop of their Canadian Diocese?
    58. Longin Bishop Gracanica

    MP
    59. Mercurius, Bishop of Zaraisk, -
    60. Moscow Patriarchate bishop in Canada?...

    ROCOR
    61. Laurus (Skurla) of New York and Eastern America
    62. Alypy (Gamanovich) of Chicago and Mid-America
    63. Kyrill (Dmitrieff) of San Francisco and Western America,
    64. Daniel (Alexandrow) of Erie, Vicar of the President of the Synod
    of Bishops for the service of Old Believers
    65. Gabriel (Chemodakov) of Manhattan, Vicar Bishop of the Eastern
    American and New York Diocese
    66. Peter (Loukianoff) of Cleveland, Vicar of the Chicago Diocese



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