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"We have concluded that when the principle of racial division (i.e. phyletism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics." Constantinople...1872 * Pray and Work for Orthodox Unity in North America!!! * St. Andrew House announces Agreement to fund Orthodox Unity effort for years to come - see www.orthodoxdetroit.com * Welcome to the St. Andrew House Discussion Forum * Coming Soon - Orthodox Business Directory * Visit our Home Page at www.orthodoxdetroit.com

    Re: Discretion and denial cannot overcome demographics.

    Posted by George D. Karcazes Email (George D Karcazes) on 4/2/2008, 6:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Discretion and denial cannot overcome demographics."

    Harry and Al,

    As is to be expected you are both right -- up to a point -- but Al is more right than Harry.

    I have long felt that increasing the pool of eligible candidates is necessary -- but proper screening and training is more important, especially under the current system in which the pool is so limited.

    Unfortunately, I don't see much hope for change until large numbers of clergy and laity rise up and demand it. And, I don't see much hope of that happening spontaneously -- that kind of action usually requires an organized effort. Except for a couple of clergy brotherhoods that have spoken out for Unity; and, recently, one seminary faculty calling for accountability - the only organized voice I'm aware of over the past twenty years has been the OCL. While their current focus has been on Unity, they have also advocated for accountablity and transparency in governnace, and, as early as in 1992 the elevation of married clergy to the episcopacy.

    YBIC
    George


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