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"We have concluded that when the principle of racial division (i.e. phyletism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics." Constantinople...1872 * Pray and Work for Orthodox Unity in North America!!! * St. Andrew House announces Agreement to fund Orthodox Unity effort for years to come - see www.orthodoxdetroit.com * Welcome to the St. Andrew House Discussion Forum * Coming Soon - Orthodox Business Directory * Visit our Home Page at www.orthodoxdetroit.com

    Re: Discretion and denial cannot overcome demographics.

    Posted by Harry Coin on 4/2/2008, 10:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Discretion and denial cannot overcome demographics."

    George,

    As we see, the thing about 'adequate screening and training' in the real world is while it can create an ordering of the available, the first in line would not be accepted at all even 10 years ago.

    That's because there simply aren't enough folk in the line. The demographics just aren't there as while there used to be (1950 and before) a few widower priests in their working years in every sizeable group of people, now there are none.

    If we retain the present so-called 'system', where a 'bishop' oversees more states than he can travel to in a week, where the bishop cannot recognize the faces of the priest's family and half the time not their spouses or parents-- well, no embroidery abour policies, procedures, taining, importage, whatever is going to over come it.

    Also as plain, I don't see much in the way of anything good coming from folk calling for anything at all, no matter how correct, or for how long.

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