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    Re: Antioch and EP working together

    Posted by Leo on 4/26/2008, 4:22 pm, in reply to "Re: Antioch and EP working together"

    El Massieh Kahm!

    No, another name. But I am led to understand there's actually a handful of EP'ers, Greek and Filipino, lay and non, seemingly not clued-in yet. ISTM for future reference, arrangements like this could be announced ASAP with joint or simultaneous news releases, letters to clergy and faithful, or something. It seems a bit sloppy, and even risks souls at such a sensitive juncture: After I copied Father's remarks to my blog, I was contacted by someone who seems to be one of the new Antiochian Filipinos, wishing to join the conflict on my blog, which is not the purpose of that blog! I ended up trimming some of the negativity from the other guy's comment, and heavily editing the Antiochian's.

    Then again, I guess they'll fit in well, just like the rest of us: Welcome to Orthodoxy, fellas!

    One big irony is that in 1970 anti-OCA'ers claimed that converting well over 100,000 in the Lower 48 and tens of thousands of Natives in Alaska didn't constitute Moscow/Metropolia establishing The Orthodox Church here; and EP'ers want to claim the whole Philippines on the basis of a few hundred? I understand Greeks and Antiochians in New Zealand are also setting their sights on evangelizing in some Pacific Islands. Must we really export jurisdictional chaos throughout the Pacific Basin?!!! What will that do to the Gospel and Truth of Orthodoxy?!!! Let's work together there ... but real incarnational mission, not Hellenization or Slavicization or Americanization or anything else besides incarnation! This is where the Protestant Ecumenical Movement started, in concern about Third World mission amid European-inspired denominational conflict. It can seem many leading Orthodox are more active "ecumenically" with Rome and Protestants and Oriental Churches than where it's needed even more, with fellow Orthodox!

    Kalo Pascha anyway!

    Leo


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