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"We have concluded that when the principle of phyletism (i.e. ecclesiastical nationalism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics." Constantinople...1872
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    Re: Questions

    Posted by Al on 5/3/2009, 12:23 am, in reply to "Questions"

    Dean-

    Sadly, we do not agree on a variety of points. "Locally elected bishops" sounds wonderful, yet the majority of the Orthodox in the US must be satisfied doing otherwise, as their bishops are not locally elected and they don't jump ship to a jurisdiction which does elect locally. And, it was not too long ago when most of the parishes in the diocese where we lived would have preferred any bishop other than the locally elected one we had to suffer under.

    Cultural imperatives are not distasteful to a significant population, as, for example, I have seen parishes mimick the ethnicism of cultures alien to their own. It's one thing when people of Russian descent embrace, preserve and promote old Russian ethnic behavior, but it's a totally different thing what a predominantly Anglo-Saxon parish does it.

    We have created a "buffet style" approach to the Church in the US, and most of the people like it. Like Herman, there were times when I just stopped worrying about it and turned to on the task at hand in my local parish.

    Be well


    Al
    Paros Island, Greece

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