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"We have concluded that when the principle of phyletism (i.e. ecclesiastical nationalism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics." Constantinople...1872
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    Canon 28 and the Emperor?

    Posted by Leo on 6/22/2009, 8:35 pm

    I was just reminded in something I read, of the proverbial tradition in the Orthodox Empire of the Romans that the Emperor at Constantinople served as "bishop [or perhaps overseer] of those outside the Empire;" hence his coordination and even initiation of "missions" not only diplomatic but evangelistic, his serving as Baptismal godfather for a foreign ruler converting to (Byzantine) Christianity, etc.

    Now, I've never heard anyone argue like this before, but is it possible something like this, at least in part, is going through the minds, even subconsciously, of pro-C'opolitans when they draft Canon 28 of the 4th Ecumenical Synod (Chalcedon) into the service of their claims to universal jurisdiction "among the Barbarians / outside [what they recognize as] the existing canonical boundaries of Orthodox Churches"? IOW, the "Ecumenical" Patriarch as successor to the Emperor of the Romans, even Rum Millet bashi, and therefore now also "Patriarch of those outside"?

    Not that I wanna help them or anything, just trying to get at a comprehension of a claim made so incredibly....

    --Leo


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