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"We have concluded that when the principle of phyletism (i.e. ecclesiastical nationalism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics." Constantinople...1872
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    Re: Patriarch Kirill - More Russians than Greeks living in Turkey

    Posted by Al on 7/7/2009, 2:25 pm, in reply to "Patriarch Kirill - More Russians than Greeks living in Turkey"
    Message modified by user Al 7/7/2009, 2:53 pm

    If there are so many Russians living in Turkey, have they established a parish membership, are they waiting for Russian language parishes, or are they uninterested in the Church?

    Many years ago, a group of us discussed the stereotypical behavior of the three major Orthodox ethnic groups in the US. Clergy of the three representative jurisdictions/ethnicities were amongst the group members. The consensus was:

    Russian immigrant lives where there are numerous Orthodox parishes of non-Russian ethnicity,but no Russian parish. He simply remains unchurched.

    Greek immigrant lives where there are numerous Orthodox parishes of non-Greek ethnicity, but no Greek parish. He tends to become Episcopalian or other non-Catholic congregant.

    Arab immigrant lives where there are numerous parishes of non-Arabic ethnicity, but no Arabic parish. He will join the nearest Orthodox parish.

    If the indications of Church attendance by recent Russian immigrants to the US are indicative of anything, the Russians in Turkey are not seeking Orthodoxy. Significantly more of the recent Russian immigrants to the US are either unchurched or evangelical protestant than are members of an Orthodox parish. A very similar situation exists in the UK.


    Al
    Paros Island, Greece

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