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"We have concluded that when the principle of phyletism (i.e. ecclesiastical nationalism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics."
Re: UNIVERSAL, GEOGRAPHIC, ECCLESIASTIC, JURISDICTION Is Such A Concept Orthodox?
Posted by Al on 1/18/2011, 3:10 am, in reply to "Re: UNIVERSAL, GEOGRAPHIC, ECCLESIASTIC, JURISDICTION Is Such A Concept Orthodox?"
"PS Sicilian huh? You KNOW what the Greeks call those guys...LOL" |
On Paros, "una faccia una razza" is the reception I receive. We have more fun speculating whether the Cyclades were originally part of Sicily or vica versa. Fair number of folks of Venetian ancestry in the Cyclades, BTW
Several years ago, I met a fellow about my age (or a coule of years younger, who's father was from the same Sicilian village as mine. He immediately declared us "cousins".
Our fellow villagers love to party and socialize, and since we moved here, when a group of us gather for coffe or the like at a cafe in the neighboring village, the standing joke is "The Aspro Chorio Mafia!"
Again, Dean, I'm not sure we can make generalizations about the Greeks in the US based upon what historically happened in primarily Orthodox lands. Until we put that history behind us, we are not going to understand the "American experience" and correct our failings in it. Until we come to grips with the de facto centuries of recognition of the Roman Church as the legitimate "local Church" in the West, we are going to make bad assumptions and decisions. We are too busy looking only at Orthodoxy and not the real environment in which the Orthodox in the West are living. Or, to be a bit harsh, we are using a ghetto mentality to exclude what is really outside the walls of the ghetto and effecting the ghetto.
Actually, Sir John Tavener once described the Greeks in diaspora as having a fundamental inferiority complex, about which they were arrogantly proud.
Paros Island, Greece