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"We have concluded that when the principle of phyletism (i.e. ecclesiastical nationalism) is juxtaposed with the teaching of the Gospel and the constant practice of the Church, it is not only foreign to it, but also completely opposed, to it. We decree the following in the Holy Spirit: 1. We reject and condemn racial division, that is, racial differences, national quarrels and disagreements in the Church of Christ, as being contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers, on which the holy Church is established and which adorn human society and lead it to Divine piety. 2. In accordance with the holy canons, we proclaim that those who accept such division according to races and who dare to base on it hitherto unheard-of racial assemblies are foreign to the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church and are real schismatics."
Re: Greek Orthodox Christians renew calls for Arabising Church Leadership
Posted by Tom Kanelos on 6/9/2011, 7:46 am, in reply to "Re: Greek Orthodox Christians renew calls for Arabising Church Leadership"
I was pointing out to rj that his point about a "Patriarch of Paris and all Europe" was in direct contradiction to what you were saying. In other words, you said that church borders followed secular borders. In order for rj to be aqreeing with you, he would need to be saying "Patriarch of Paris and All France".
To say that the Church exists IN Greece, IN, Russia, IN America is accurate. What Met. Kallistos is NOT saying as that Church borders follow national borders.
As far as the ancient Patriarchates go, They ALL had jursdictions which extended beyond the borders of the empire. You do know that Russia was outside of the Roman empire, right? You do know that parts of Africa were outside the empire, right? You do know that many areas of the east which have always been under Antioch were not part of the empire, right? You do know that some areas of western and northern Europe which were under Rome before the schism, were not part of the empire, right?
From the earliest times ecclesiastical borders crossed national borders. It's a fact.