Posted by Brian Lilley ================================================= Where to begin? I've only gone over your site very quickly - needs closer The e-mail address we got from Bob was obviously an old one so I all but gave My Brian got busy placing info. in the Ancestor magazine (Gen Soc of Vic) and I am attaching a file which I hope fills in some gaps. Are you interested in Bye for now. Family of Charles Newman and Mary Lilley Mary Lilley (30/11/1870 Piggoreet - 4/8/1938 Warrnambool) Their children: Sam married 20/8/1919 to Clara Sabina Wormald Bob's first marriage to Lilian May Tucker (1905-1934) Bob's second marriage to Hilda Florence Curtis Ruby married 15/7/1933 Richmond to Thomas Gordon Middleton Vera married 29/4/1935 Warrnambool to Charles Augustus Gerock Mary and Charles Sam Bob Ruby Vera
on 14/6/2002, 11:44 am
Jan & Brian Firth recently contacted me. Jan is a granddaughter of Charles Newman & Mary Lilley. They have generously provided information on that family. Something which I have been searching for for years. I have therefore reproduced what they said here. Thanks so much Jan & Brian!!!
Dear Brian,
scrutiny - several questions spring to mind but I'll leave that for now.
up, until my cousin Nan (Vera's daughter) gave me an address in Queanbeyan that
could possibly help - it has been in the 'must do' box for a while.
the FirstFamilies2001 website. Responses to these depositories have come up
with a Newman 2nd cousin and a Lilley (Ella's daughter). There was also an
enquiry from someone researching Lilley but because she has very little info it
is difficult to make a link. Brian was playing about out of curiosity and came
upon your site. Eureka!
the next two generations?
Jan.
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Charles Newman (12/9/1864 Koroit - 15/3/1942 Warrnambool)
They married 3/8/1892 South Ecklin
Samuel George (7/6/1893 Panmure - 1981 Warrnambool)
Robert Charles (29/9/1896 Panmure - 1/12/1961 Mooroopna)
Ruby Lilley (16/4/1899 Panmure - 29/7/1995 Moorabbin)
Veronica Ray (16/9/1904 Panmure - 4/7/1984 Warrnambool)
( - 24/4/1963 Warrnambool)
There were no children
Twin daughters born Carlisle River 27/8/1934
Lynette m. 7/5/1960 George Herz (she died mid 70s Melbourne)
Lilian m. 31/3/1956 Norman Grove at Stanhope
(24/8/1905 Carlisle River - 21/10/1966 Stanhope)
Shirley (27/1/1941 Colac - )
m. 8/8/1962 Lindsay McGrath at Stanhope
(4/1/1906 Terang - 21/7/2001 Creswick)
Janice (29/2/1936 Richmond - )
m. 25/8/1962 Brian Firth at Melbourne
(7/7/1904 - 31/1/1976 Warrnambool)
Nanette Rae (6/5/1936 - )
m. 29/6/61 (Robert) John McGregor (28/6/1935 - )
Mary Therese (10/11/1940 - )
m. -/1/1960 Neville Robert Murray (27/12/1937 - )
John Charles (9/9/1946 - )
m. Pamela Jane Troeth (div.)
first lived in the Garvoc-Laang area where Charles and his brother Bill worked a timber mill until they were burned out. Later Mary ran the sweet shop next to the Panmure Hall. She also played the organ for the Anglican Church although always regarded as a Methodist. Charles was an overseer with the Country Roads Board. They eventually moved to Warrnambool.
during his working life managed a number of butter factories in the Western District and later Stanhope. Sam and Clare were both very involved in local church and community activities. Sam as a young man umpired local cricket and football matches. Later in life he became an avid lawn bowler.
was butter maker at Carlisle River, Colac and finally Stanhope where he moved with Sam's encouragement. Bob, in earlier days, played football for Panmure and suffered from Sam's eagerness not to be seen to play favourites when umpiring.
had a very brief flirtation with nursing. Her career ended abruptly when faced with the disposal of some amputated digits. She was employed as Nursery Governess to the Staughton girls at Keayang (Terang) where she met my Dad. Incidentally I'm fairly certain that Keayang was where the Lilley boys worked from time to time earlier on. Bob mentioned A.J. (Col. Staughton) being very sarcastic towards them. Ruby was enticed to Melbourne by Tom who had already succumbed to the bright lights. She worked as a relieving manageress for a chain of tearooms before marrying in 1933.
I am aware of Vera working part-time domestically for a period at Keayang but that is all I am aware of prior to her marriage. Her husband Charlie was printer at the Warrnambool Standard.
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