Posted by Strider on 5/5/2009, 11:08 pm, in reply to "Re: The Dark Spire - OK...Now WTF?!?!?"
I actually stumbled across the jewel quest on my own in my wanderings- fortunate for me, I suppose. I haven't finished the graverobber quest yet, either.
From what I understand, you have to go up to level 2 and then back down to level 1- I assume this is through the passage in the north part of the dungeon rather than the one near the casino, since the one near the casino seems to be a fairly elaborate dead end.
I did break into the casino storeroom and get a key, though, and I'm trying to do the pain-in-the-ass "recover the family heirloom" quest.
Incidentally, something I noticed: If you walk into a wall, normally there's a 'bump' sound, but there will be none if you walk into a wall with a secret door. This should make hunting them down a little easier; I've found that most of the 'closet mazes' seem to have at least one.
Latest discoveries: There's a third-level mage spell that does 10-20 damage to all targets. This is really very vicious and will wreck most enemy targets on the first and second floors. If you're willing to risk venturing down there, the enemies in the basement leave pretty good loot as well- I've found a lot of Claymores, Longbows, and Kris knives around that area (I still reccomend saving after every battle down there). There's also a Kris in a secret room right near the stairway down from the 1st floor.
- HC
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: Yeah, found the second way up to level 2 which
: also doesn't seem to lead to anything
: useful. I just figured out (thru reading)
: how to get the Jewel Quest done...BUT I
: CAN'T EVEN EFFING FIND THE GODDAM GRAVE
: ROBBERS!!
:
: THERE'S NO WAY TO GET TO THE LITTLE ROOM
: THEY ARE IN!!
:
: I HAVE PRINTED OUT SOME MAPS AND TRIED
: TRACING MY WAY THRU THEM, AND i CAN'T FIND
: ANY ####ING WAY TO GET TO THE MOTHERHUMPING
: SONS-A-b###hES!!
:
: --Previous Message--
: Well, just for reference, my party is:
:
: L4 Warrior w/ Battleaxe, Wood Shield, Steel
: Helm, Platemail
: L3 Priest/L1 Warrior w/ Flail, Wood Shield,
: Chainmail
: L3 Theif w/ Longbow, Leather Helm, Leather
: Armor
: L3 Mage w/ Quarterstaff, Leather Helm, Robe
:
: The theif and the mage both spent most of
: their exp buying up various abilities
: (Disarmament/Lock Picking on the Theif,
: Ancient Languages on the Mage). I generally
: stay in the two in the front/two in the back
: formation with the Warrior and Cleric in the
: front.
:
: With this party, I can survive with some
: luck on the second floor, particularly near
: the casino, but the enemy parties in the
: basement floor still own me pretty hard.
: I've explored about 2/3 of the first floor
: (A chunk of the bottom third of the map and
: most of the top third) and bits and pieces
: of the second and basement. I've clocked
: about 3 hours, but that's deceptively low
: because I tend to reset if one of my
: characters gets killed rather than pay to
: revive them.
:
: As for general strategy, it sounded earlier
: like you didn't have a mage- you might want
: to reroll to include one in your party, as
: the first-level spell that puts enemies to
: sleep is very effective on the first floor
: and pretty effective on the second as well.
: I've been using it pretty extensively (in
: lieu of the fire spell they start with), and
: it's saved me more times than I want to
: think about. Enemy parties on the second
: floor give about twice as much experienc as
: the ones on the first floor, and if you stay
: in the area near the casino and save
: frequently it should be a decent way to
: grind your way up.
:
: If you don't have the
: "Disarmament" skill on your theif,
: it may not be a bad idea to skip chests
: (particularly if they have the poison needle
: trap on them- you can figure out what kind
: of trap a given chest has by the item list
: that pops up when you inspect it). The loot
: on the first floor isn't honestly that good,
: and the traps can hurt a lot.
:
: If you haven't figured out yet, the Scrap
: Metals you find on the first floor cast the
: first-level single-target attack spell on an
: enemy.
:
: If you're saving frequently, you may want to
: reload if any of your characters die.
: Reviving them is expensive, and can be a
: long-term drain on your finances.
:
: What do you mean about not having armor with
: weapons? Some of them are two-handed and
: will prevent you from carrying a shield, but
: AFAIK none of them invalidate armor...
:
: How much of the first floor have you
: explored? Did you do the Moonlight Jewel
: quest? Did you find the second way up to
: floor 2?
:
: - HC
:
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: --Previous Message--
: How much do you have to freaking build up
: before anything off the first floor doesn't
: like...TOTALLY ####IN PROSECUTE YOU??
:
: I'm sick and tired of the low, shitty EXP
: and gold of the first floor, but anywhere
: other than the first floor, and the bastards
: totally ####in prosecute me!! What the shit
: is this??
:
: Can I have some ####in strategy help here or
: something?? This is really beginning to
: piss me off...over 5 hours gameplay time,
: and I can barely leave the first floor!!!
:
: I can't get decent weapons or armor, I keep
: getting killed and having to revive...or
: every time I get a good weapon, it won't
: ####in let me have armor with that weapon or
: WTF, I don't know but this is beginning to
: royally piss me off, because i don't have a
: ####ing clue what I ought to be doing, and I
: am sick of back and forth, back and forth on
: the first floor...it's boring my ass off...I
: want to start going other places, but, every
: time I do, the ####ing game kicks my ass!!
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