
Posted by Greg
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on June 11, 2009, 1:33 pm, in reply to "Re: Compatibility"
I want to make sure people understand that the signals aren't actually the same. Laser Challenge's umm... high tolerance for the signals it accepts as tags is why this works. This same high tolerance is why most LC has relatively low sunlight range, and why some of LC will take hits from the sun, in addition to the sun causing the low range. In other words, it will take just about anything that looks close enough as good enough and counts it as a tag.
This is why LC has such GREAT nighttime range. Without all that sunlight interfering, just about any signal, no matter how weak, will be counted. This is also why (I believe someone mentioned this) LTTO hits on LC sensors are even longer range, since the LTTO/LTX has a tighter focus than most LC taggers (not counting mods), the light goes even farther and the very forgiving LC vest will take hits from farther away.
LTTO and LTX lands tags on any LC vest/tagger that doesn't have special features. Such special features are in the Radar Extreme vests. I believe the reason for that "incompatability" is that the RE vests are LESS tolerant of signal variances because it's also having to discern between the radar signal from the tag signal. It's less tolerant with LC signals, and by extension, less tolerant with LTTO/LTX signals. Therefore, the "not close enough" LTTO/LTX tag signals are ignored. I would bet the RE gear has better daytime range, or at least takes sun hits less often, if ever.
This is the scenario I like to describe:
When an LC vest sees a pattern of IR light, it looks and says, "Eh... close enough!" and BAM! it takes a tag. This gives LC phenomenal nighttime range, but a tendency to take non-LC tag signals as tags, including sun-hits (not all LC gear has the same level of sun-hit problems)
When an LTTO tagger sees a pattern of light it looks and says, "Hmm... that might be a tag. I'll double-check to make sure. Nope, it's missing the important parts of the pattern. NO TAG FOR YOU!"
This gives LTTO great sun-hit prevention and inter-game/technology tag prevention, but also reduces it's effective range at night (against an LTTO sensor).
Yes, many LC vests will register a tag when shot with a LTTO or Phoenix LTX tagger in LTAG mode. Again, it's not because the signals are the same, but because the LC vests will take just about anything with a similar IR pulse as a tag. That's why the LTTO beacon must be disabled, since that signal is also received as a tag, making any unmodded LTTO effectively a neverending grenade blast.
Anyway, I think it's great that LC people can continue using their sensors while adding more variety to their armory using LTTO/LTX gear. I just don't want people thinking that LTTO/LTX are sending out tags that are the same as LC tags.
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