Posted by Rhisiart Gwilym on November 4, 2009, 8:42 pm, in reply to "Re: Dr David Nutt"

Hi Themos, If you wish to see high-grade evidence, with numerous professional engineers backing it already, there's plenty to be had. Not for discussion here, since the Eds. request that. But several regular posters here are up to speed with the present state of the serious, peer-reviewed evidence, to my knowledge, and can help you find your way into it if you wish. Just leave us a note here, and we'll be glad to speak about it in depth elsewhere. I should say, though, that most of us are pretty impatient by now with people who don't really wish to engage soberly with the evidence, but simply to exercise their impulse to deny the likely true story behind the atrocities. (The by-now thoroughly debunked** official conspiracy story is still being used actively as a public propaganda excuse in the USukisnato territories for that axis's continuing resource-war aggressions in the Caspian-Hormuz Sweetoil Corridor, so this isn't exactly a dead issue, as some on the denialist side of the divide would have us think) Please do say if you're serious about taking a careful look at the high-grade, professional-engineer-backed evidence. An increasing number of engineers, professors of engineering, and architects are putting their names behind this effort now. I'd be happy to help you find your way into their testimony. Cheers, RhG ** You need to engage in depth with the aggregated, high-grade evidence, as currently arrayed, to see why I can make that assertion with such confidence. It's not, of course, an assertion universally accepted yet, but it gains ground quietly all the time, and will become orthodox, I suspect, some time after all the real perpetrators of the atrocities are dead; possibly even before then, though I wouldn't give you short odds on that, considering the durability of successfully-established Big Lies, as attested by historical examples. The issue is further complicated by the unfortunate fact that some of the most impressive minds of our current time have been sold this Big Lie successfully. Just shows the human fallibility of absolutely all of us, I suppose. Underlines yet again the profound truth of that remark that Chomsky made in that splendid interview he gave to the silly Stephen Sackur at the beeb, posted here a few threads below, that whatever line of theory you may be pursuing, and even if you've been doing so for a long time, you have to hold always at the back of your mind the conviction that it could be wrong, and that ultimately new knowledge may come up which will oblige you to abandon it. Sackur was evidently flummoxed when Noam asserted that he tried always to have that rule in the back of his mind. An impeccable principle. I stand with Noam on that.

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