Posted by Steve (Billy Steven Crider) on February 16, 2008, 5:24 pm, in reply to "A summation...David Koresh on Jonah Pt. 1"
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****ahh...awaken sleeper...I think of the parable of the Ten virgins...messianic***
call upon thy God, if so be
that God will think upon us, that we perish not. I mean they're like
shooting a bunch of wild turkey out in the woods, huh? In other words,
maybe your God will help us. Every man's crying to his own god, right? It's
apparent that at this time, the shipmaster knows that everybody's god's all
out of town, huh? And they said everyone to his fellow, Come, and let us
cast lots,
****casting lots..hmm...Calvary...messianic"
that we may know for whose cause this evil is upon us. So they
decide to pick sticks, huh? So you would think that would just be time and
chance wouldn't it. So they cast lots, and the lot fell upon what?
Class: Jonah
David: Just by chance, huh? Jonah came up with the short straw didn't he.
Tape Interruption
David: The God of what?
Class: Heaven
David: Which hath made the sea and the dry land. Now Jonah's like most of
us. He's a hypocrite, isn't he Then were the men exceedingly afraid, and
said unto him, Why hast thou done this? For the men knew that he fled from
the presence of the LORD, because he had told them. Then said they unto
him, What shall we do unto thee, that the sea may be calm unto us? for the
sea was wrought, and was tempestous. And he said unto them, Take me up, and
cast me forth into the sea; so shall the sea be calm unto you: for I know
that for my sake this great tempest is upon you. Was Jonah a fair man? He
knew he had failed God. He knew he had put people into jeopardy by his sin
and transgression. So now he tells them to let him walk the plank, huh? He
was gonna take his licking, huh? Nevertheless the men rowed hard to bring
it to the land. Because they weren't gonna what? Here's some men who
worshipped pagan gods - that are better then Jonah - men willing to risk
their own lives then to have one perish, huh? But they could not. They
couldn't get the boat to land, could they? For the sea wrought, and was
tempestous against them. Wherefore they cried unto the LORD, and said, We
beseech thee, O LORD, we beseech thee, let us not perish for this mans
life, and lay not upon us innocent blood.
****Did you catch that...who did these pagans pray to?"
They didn't want to kill him, did
they? They didn't want to throw him off, did they? For thou, O LORD, hast
done as it pleased thee. So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the
sea: and the sea ceased from her raging. Then the men feared the LORD
exceedingly, and offered a sacrifice unto the LORD, and made vows. What did
they vow? From now on they would serve the God that Jonah didn't. Sometimes
the death of one man, because of all the hell that breaks loose, will cause
people to convert and get on the right course, right? This was a miracle to
these men, wasn't it? Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up
Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.
Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fishes belly, And said,
I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of
the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice. For thou hadst cast
me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me
about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me. Then I said, I am cast
out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple. The waters
compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the
weeds were wrapped about my head. I went down to the bottoms of the
mountains; the earth with her bars was about me forever: yet thou hast
brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God. When my soul fainted
within me I remembered the LORD: and my prayer came unto thee, into thine
holy temple.
Steve Schneider: Vernon, there's a guy at the gate that just stopped by and
wants to hear. No one knows who he is.
David: Well, what does he look like? Anybody know - recognize him.
Male: He's a pretty clean guy. He has a pickup truck.
****Okay...you have no idea what this passage means to me...
the very first time I heard this sermon...at this point...I thought of
my dad...pictured him in his gray pickup truck....a few years later
I would find out after asking my Dad if he had ever been to Mt.
Carmel before it burnt down, due to this flash in my mind...he
would tell me no...but he would tell me something a cousin had
already told me...one of my aunts...lived right across from Mt. Carmel
lived there in 93, lived there long before. She died recently.
Her name was Sandra. I don't know how...but this on some level
will be instrumental in God's purpose being fulfilled. As I announced
to Clive a couple years ago...shortly after he left Mt. Carmel that God
had told me that he was going to deliver Mt. Carmel into my hand
but not for the purpose of "putting you guys back onto the property"***
David: Huh? Well, go out there Terry and see. They that observe lying
vanities forsake their own mercy. So what's the object lesson here? What's
the object lesson? Huh? Well, Jonah served a real God - a living true God
who had power over the land, earth, and sea . Anything contrary to the God
of that temple that Jonah prayed to is vanity.
****Go ahead Jonah...I can testify...so can a few meterologists and
government agencies...as well some in this room....let me tell you
there are some nervous souls on the west coast****
Now Jonah knew enough of
this God that he explained to the guys that the reason why this was - cause
he had turned away from an obligation God had committed to him, and this
obligation was for the sole salvation of many people, wasn't it?
****go ahead Jonah***
To cry
against Nineveh, the great city of Assyria. But I will sacrifice unto thee
with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. What was
the vow that all Israel was to make unto God?
Class: {unintelligible}
David: That's the vow of Israel since the days that God brought Israel out
of Egypt by the hand of Moses. {For their seed and their seed cease
throughout all generation to obey the present truth? And the LORD spake
unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land. So we can say at
this point Jonah realized that he was nothing but puke, right? Right? Jonah
wasn't nothing but old puke was he? So who was he to deny the authority of
the most high, and to fear man, or the son of man which was made as grass,
right? Now people always think that prophets have to be holy and divine,
but this story is a record to show you that God is the one in charge of
salvation, and God is the one who chooses whom he will choose.
****Testify***in the mouth of two or three prophets..."
God could
have easily slain Jonah and chose a multitude of others, but the story is
written so that we might be confident that God's purposes are His purposes
and we're not to judge or misjudge God's reasons for doing what he does.
God used Jonah to save, even though Jonah wasn't {in any hurry} to be in
the ministry, was he? God chose to raise up the sea, and to use Jonah as an
object to save, not that Jonah would tell a man anything. Here's the
keynote. And the word of the LORD came unto Jonah the second time, saying,
Arise, go unto Nineveh, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching
that I bid thee. Ok. Here's the object lesson. So Jonah arose, and went
unto Nineveh, according to the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an
exceeding great city of three days' journey. Let's pay attention. Let's pay
attention, Rachel. And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey,
and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be what?
Class: Overthrown.
David: Now class here comes a message - here comes a messenger whose
purpose is to threaten a city - given an allotted time period. Now you've
got to imagine the kind of men that were inhabitants of this city. You have
to meditate, and realize that in a city such as Nineveh the capitol of
Assyria - you know how the Assyrian's were - that they would even consider
a message not even from their own origin. Jonah was a Hebrew - a stranger -
an alien to this society, and yet here comes a man out of his social
atmosphere, and he comes and tells the world's greatest city at this time
that God's gonna destroy them within forty days. So the people of Nineveh
believed God, and proclaimed a fast, and put on sackcloth, from the
greatest of them even to the least of them. Now that's strange. But now
we've got to meditate upon the object of this lesson - the book of Jonah.
**** RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH>>>THIS TRANSCRIPT
IS COPIED FROM MARK SWETT'S TRANSCRIPTS>>>>
IF YOU HAVE DAVID"S SERMON ON JONAH LISTEN TO WHAT WAS
JUST SAID....I ONLY NOW JUST CAUGHT IT MYSELF....14 minutes and
10 seconds into the tape David did not say "the book of Jonah"
What he said was "the book of JONAS" go back Mr. Swett, listen again
"...the sign of Jonas"....now what was the object this lesson?
You know I heard David speak in another sermon, that Ellen White
once wrote a letter to a man who would open it many years later to
find that she had told him in that letter all that would occur, and did
in the years between the time he recieved the letter,
and the time he read the same...
I consider that as David recounted that story that he was aware that
he was being recorded....That there are reports of Survivors claiming
that David told them that they would forget some things for a time....
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