Posted by Steven Benjamin on May 31, 2009, 9:38 am, in reply to "Re: The 200,000,000 Army Of Locusts "
It is interesting to see Baruch posting again, or one on his behalf. Conversations with with some of the surviving Branch Davidians, indicate they believe the fulfillment of Joel Chapter 2 is not symbolic, but to be an actual supernatural army, to be resurrected from the Dead. This is as per conversations with Clive Dole and Livingstone Fagan.
The last posts I recall of you, were in relation to doctrine of the 2 Witnesses, upon which being questioned about what seemed to be flaws in the logic of that doctrine, Baruch simply fell silent on this board for a while. IT is good to see you active again.
I realize that my not being quick to accept this doctrine would automatically possibly place me as being of "Babylon"...but when presenting legitamate questions, the same were simply dismissed to silence. This seems rather convenient.
I am uncertain if this is all more of the "Hidden Manna" doctrine, or a continuation of the same. But it sounds such. My issue with such doctrine is not the one presenting the same, it is that in 1999-2001 I was investigating the doctrine of the Branch Davidians in further detail. And spent much time on the Hidden Manna site. It seems that while some of those who were in prison embrace this one claiming to be "the Chosen Vessel" the majority, as has been noted by one of the Survivors do not. I am not certain, but I believe doubts to this began to surface in 1996. It seems there was a "PROPHECY" either stated or implied which pointed to that year to be the year that David Koresh would return. So, Where is he? Europe? Asia? Perhaps South America? I hear the tourist attractions in Cancun are nice this time of year.
The fact is, he did not return in 1996. Not in any fashion which now is evident. Now about the time I was studying the doctrine on the Hidden Manna website...there was a matter of timelines noted, going back to 1993. That timeline, came and went uneventfull and the events attached to the same, failed to come to fruition.
Now even though such became evident to me in early 2001, I still did not reject the doctrine being presented, but, I was being instructed of the Spirit to take note of certain events and shown the meaning to the same. I would in 2001 visit Waco, and I would learn that a "Schism" seemed to exist amongst the Surviving Branch Davidians, and that those in Waco and this "Chosen Vessle" or "the C.V." as he seems to be referred to with a certain celebrity like status these days, if indeed the reference is truly to the same person as at some point, it was noted the one 2001 called such, became somewhat reclusive and another had seemingly assumed the mantle of "The C.V."
It is not the one calling themselves "The C.V." which prompts me to question such doctrine, nor is it the doctrine itself, at least it wasn't in the beginning, not until the timeline which was set to the 2000/2001 timeframe passed uneventfull. It is however that THIS VERY SCHISM, was prophecied clearly in the BOOK OF Daniel it is the fact that The Spirit of JAH" specifically shown me this in 2005, and shortly following I received a Survivors Newsletter from Clive which contained a letter forwarded From Livingstone which indicated The Spirit had shown him likewise, for me, this was an affirmation.
So, if you are "the C.V.", if you know "The C.V." then please tell him I have been trying to reach him for sometime to point him to Daniel Chapter 11, to a time when some of "Those of Understanding shall fall" to have prophecied the event of this Schism amongst his Brethren. Please tell him, it was prophecied that the purpose of such "falling" on the part of some of "those with Understanding" was noted that such was not to send any to "HELL", but to purify them, to as written in Daniel 11 "Make them white."
It is good to see posts being made by or on behalf of Baurch again, and in that light, perhaps even to one called "The C.V." and as I have been pointed to this timeframe, Shavout, I do not rule out anything as being the significance for which the timeframe was emphasized to myself, to those Survivors in Waco via my instructions of the Spirit, and to this board. I do seem to recall that the subject matter at hand..."THE 200,000 Army of Locusts" is the same to which my very first discussions with the one calling himself "BARUCH KORESH" began on this board.
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