Posted by Steven Benjamin on May 31, 2009, 2:49 pm, in reply to "Re: Calendar Confusion (3)"
Just a further note of clarification on the subject of Calendar Confusion. Consider the following:
1) Pentecost while noted in the new testament,
is NOT in the Old Testament. The word is a Greek Term meaning "COUNT 50" and was used in the timeframe of Yeheshua as an alternate term to define SHAVOUT
2)Scripture does not command to "COUNT 50" days in order to arrive at the date for Shavout.
It does not even note to count "49" days then note the 50th as the observation. What Scripture does mandate in such calcualation is to count "SEVEN COMPLETE SABBATHS" Leviticus 23:15
3) The word "COMPLETE" here is important, ever so much as "FROM THE DAY THAT YE BROUGHT THE SHEAF OF THE WAVE OFFERING" in arriving at the correct conclusion for TWO days actually as there is dispute in the Jewish community about when to Observe the Wave Sheaf offering as well.
4)The language of both verse 15 AND 16 in chapter 23 of Leviticus places the use of "ON the MORROW After Sabbath" in proper Perspective.
It is clear in verse 16 "Even unto the MORROW after the SEVENTH SABBATH" that the use of the term refers to Sunday as the day of the week.
As it is understood the 7 Sabbaths are Weekly Sabbath in arriving at period of 49 days between the day to begin counting and the day (50th) for observation.
5) Most of Judaism and even Christianity observed Passover on the wrong day this year. As such, we identitfied in that timeframe a minimum of 2 groups observing false timelines. Both a day or two apart. Which is how, if you count 50 days...for those groups you would arrive at one of two days this past week, also incorrect for observance. But you would understand how they arrived at such...to come to either THURSDAY AT SUNSET...or FRIDAY AT SUNSET. We will deal with Friday first.
6) The day for Passover does not fall on the same day each year. Therefore if you were counting 50 days after Passover, the 50th day would not fall on the same day each year either. So this is where the word "COMPLETE" in 7 complete Sabbaths comes into play. What if day 50 falls on a Sabbath? Well, If that Sabbath, the seventh, only begins at Sunset, How then can it fulfill the command to be "COMPLETE"? It can't. Now, not only does the word "Complete"
Play a crucial factor, but "ON THE MORROW AFTER THE SEVENTH SABBATH SHALL YE NUMBER 50 DAYS" should clearly point out that the Day of Shavout should always be observed on a Sunday. What about those years in which Passover falls on a Monday? 50 days later you would arrive at something like a Tuesday or Wedneday...how could that then be both following 50 days and be "ON THE MORROW AFTER THE SEVENTH SABBASTH? It cannot. It can be 50 days later, but Scripture does note even use "50 days" as consderation for factoring the timeline for Counting forward. It does use 50 days for the timeline "COUNTING BACKWARD" in verse 16 of Leviticus 23, but the forward Calculation uses not days...but weekly Sabbaths...SEVEN WEEKLY SABBATHS. Lev 23:15
7) WHY USE SEVEN SABBATHS rather than 50 days?
Well the first reason is obvious, it is commanded in scripture. But now, consider this, that if the Jews in Talmudic Observance, are correct...when should Shavout have been. Do realize, if they include the HIGH SABBATH of Uneleavened Bread in the equation, then this year there have been a MINIMUM of EIGHT SABBATHS! There have been NINE if you consider that Passover has TWO additional Sabbaths, one on both the first and Last day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Leviticus 23:7,8
SO, this means that Those JEWs and "Christians" Alike using such false method of calculating the
timeline for Shavout, would if correct about the Waiv Sheaf offering being on any other day of the week than a Sunday this past year, (Thursday or Friday this year for most incorrectly observing) then the Seventh "Sabbath" would have then occurred on May 22nd,2009, and if you count The holy convocation of the last day of Unleavened Bread, then it would have been on May 15th, 2009 making most of the Worlds Jews, not 2 two to three days early in observing Shavout this year, but rather 1 to 2 weeks LATE!
8) Only when one recognizes the language of verse 15 in Leviticus 23 to be pointing that the day of the Waiv Sheaf offering is on Sunday, the first day of the week, the day "ON THE MORROW" following the "WEEKLY" Sabbath, will one recongize that Seven "COMPLETE" Sabbaths forward, and simultaneously, "50 DAYS" will ALWAYS Place one at arriving to Shavout as fulfilling both a proper timeline of having "50 Days" passed (since a Sunday Observance of the Waiv Sheaf Offering), also fulfilling a period of SEVEN Sabbaths (Weekly) passing and not 8 or even nine, and likewise finally arriving at a day which will ALWAYS without fail be on a SUNDAY, the first day of the week and which will follow "ON THE MORROW FOLLOWING THE SEVENTH SABBATH."
Therefore any other method of calculation, could put one in proper observance as being off not only by days, but possibly weeks!
Leviticus 23
7 In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
8 But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
9 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
10 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
11 And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
12 And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
13 And the meat offering thereof shall be two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD for a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof shall be of wine, the fourth part of an hin.
14 And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
15 And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
16 Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
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