Posted by Steven Benjamin on June 6, 2009, 2:31 pm, in reply to "Re: Sabbath Study (Pt 7)"
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the messengers in the former, James and Ellen White, were unfied in their presentation. Ben Roden and Florence Houteff were at odds seemingly with
one another.
THE NEXT TWO situations, likewise, as in 1975 2 attempts were made during the same year on the same president, both UNSUCCESSFULL, and those messengers...BEN RODEN, and LOIS RODEN were again, unified. The fact that 2 messengers were on the scene in 1975 as one was in transition out, was not obvious at that time. Following,
the NEXT situation, would be 1994 with two ATTEMPTS On A president, again, both unsuccessfull, and as has been
obvious by communications witnessed on this board...by two messengers whose presentations seem to be at odds with
one another.
Now as I continue here, we move beyond David Koresh's life and times to our present timeframe.
It is with the sober awareness to those who are paying attention that I even tread these waters. For such certainl concerns us at this time. As the world did not end in 1993 any more than it did in 1959. Still, there were certain tradgic and devastating moments in those years delivered to the faithful. With that in mind, and for sake of archive, let's progress.
In 1994, though not yet obvious...
TWO men who at some point along the way have addressed the Branch Davidians in Waco as having been given a message by inspirationto lay claim to "Finish The work David Koresh Started" were preaching David Koresh in this time frame. One was Branch Davidian Survivor Renos Avraam. The other was myself, Steven Benjamin, who while preaching Koresh in this timeframe, would not be given such commission until January of 2001.
In 2001 at a Sabbath Study in Waco Texas, after the study, I would announce my strange encounter to Clive Doyle as others nearby overheard. I would report of my visions over the years, but always after the fact, that is, until April of 2005.
I am greatly aware of how peculiar an individual I must have seemed early on. As time progressed however, I should think it became more and more obvious that YHWH has blessed me.
In 1996 after a timeline came and went uneventfull surrounding reported predictions cirulating amongst the survivors, doubt to his claims to be "The Chosen Vessel" began to surface. In 2001, after a PUBLIC timeline set on the old SEVENSEALS dot Com website with the Hidden Manna passed uneventfull, Reports came that Renos Avvraam had disassociated with that site, and for sometime another would assume the mantle of "The Chosen Vessle."
The timeline itself was not actually set by a date, but rather implied by overall doctrine. A doctrine which presented
America as "THE BEAST WHOSE DEADLY WOUND WAS HEALED" pointing to 1993 and Revelation 13.
This role was intermittently referred to again and again, noting that those who had come to the message between 1993 and the presentation of that doctrine were in a TIMELINE again, based on the 1,260, and 1,335 day timelines
in scripture...When David Koresh did not return in December 13th of 1996, the "42 month" prinicpal for a date in which all those believeing since 1993 forward and those who survived, would then be SLAIN for thier testimony by the Beast whose deadly wound inflicted on April 19, 1993 which had been healed to a date by the expectations attached to the events presented in that doctrine and those timelines to arrive at August 6,1999. I have the orginal files to that site archived. The information once presented as "THE SEVEN SEALS BOOK 1" and "THE SEVEN SEALS BOOK 2" has been illusive to me in recent searches for
the same. Perhaps I have looked in the wrong location. At that timeframe, it was not a large meteor coming to promote an exodus by those heeding the Chosen Vessle to some location in Asia which was being foretold.
It was promoted in the early writings on the Sevenseals site, that the Chosen Vessel would be likewise Killed as was Koresh, but in a different fashion, Decapitated if I recall correctly, perhaps not, but certainly SLAIN for his testimony, as would be all those or many who followed as well. These 144,000 who were to die in a timeline set over and over again in references to correlate the 1,260 and 1,335 day timelines to point to August of 1999, would precede the return of Koresh and an army of 200,000,000.
Others took note of the same predictions and such is documented in works* which are not necessarily "Seemingly"
helpful to the promotion of David Koresh's message, though such was foretold in Daniel 11 to a time of "FALLING" by
"some" of those "with understanding."
SOURCE: "Apocalypse and Millenium" by Kenneth G.C. Newport
on Page 227.
Shortly after 2001/2002 it seemed the SevenSeals dot com site was going through a facelift of sorts. With the claim "new messages From Waco" being used on the site to promote itself, though I never seen any such message...the times I visited they always stated "NEW MESSAGES FROM WACO COMING SOON!"
Seemingly indicating contact with those in Waco. I Called Clive to question this. He knew nothing about such.
I did like the "carry on my wayward Son" themesong being promoted on the revamped site about 2004/2005, one of my favorite songs by the way.
When I later approached the administrator of that site in question as I knew Renos Avraam was in prison and NOT IN GEORGIA, while the website claimed however that the CHOSEN VESSLE was in GEORGIA, my questions were dismissed and my post removed from that page, and shortly afterwards an public post was made challenging any an all who would question the "Identity" of the one in GEORGIA again...NOT RENOS, as the Chosen Vessel. A challenge which basically came off like a scene from the Wizard of Oz
"DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN...IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT IS BEHIND THE CURTAIN,...ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT THE WIZARD HAS SPOKEN!!" I called Clive to verify if Renos was in Georgia, he was not. For the record, there is a lot of propaganda out there. And I have been maintaining regular ties to the Branch Davidian Surivivors for years, and they have NEVER conducted themselves in a Secretive manner. Though on two occasions, and only two did they cite that for reasons of those adversaries who may be listening in, that they could not freely divulge certain aspects of that told them by David. This game of "who's the C.V.?" that I witnessed being played like a game of Hot Potato, was not only laying claim to a "chosen Vessle" personae being promoted to have been a Survivor...as if the ORIGINAL personae of Renos Avvraam, but when it was directly pointed that he was not in Georgia at all, the tone was taken to harsh levels and it was then suggested in conspiracy level like fashion that the identity of the Chosen Vessel was a secret in order to protect "him/her" from the Beast. As I recall, that would be the first time a post I made in relation to ties to Waco on a board promoting itself as sympathetic to the Branch Davidians removed a post. In retrospect, I am sure you can see the danger in such, as those would have come to an awareness that they may have been being duped...would have at the very least done thier investigation, to actually contact Clive, or Livingstone or even Renos for that matter.
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February 7, 2001: While President George W. Bush was occupied in the White House Residence, Washington, DC, Robert Pickett, standing outside the perimeter fence, discharged a number of shots from a...
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