Posted by Exodus on October 19, 2009, 5:52 pm, in reply to "Re: Exodus Chp 5 (3)"
(contd from last post)
Now, could the rest of the Hebrews in Moses’ day recount a time when they met God? No, not likely, if any did, we have no record of such. Does that make them any less God’s Children or did it make them any less his people? No. It just means that unlike the rest of the Hebrews in his day, Moses had a personal audience with God, now later the Hebrews would witness the presence of God, and on one occasion, only one, they would all have a personal audience with him, and upon hearing his voice, they would fear for their very lives, and have a whole new respect for Moses as they would beg God not to speak to them anymore.
But at the time Moses was sent, generations had passed and everyone who had lived in the last visitation when God communicated with a man, Joseph, and then by dreams not actual conversation, all those people had long since died, they, and their children, and their children’s’ children and any who had been alive had long since died. Even more generations than that had passed since the last time a Man actually had a personal audience with God, Jacob.
So here everyone is in Moses’ day, and they all know ABOUT GOD, but nobody really “KNOWS GOD.”
Surely they prayed, and saw answer to prayer, if only on small levels, but actually knowing God…quite another matter entirely.
SO on another level, when Moses replied to God earlier, “THEY WILL NEVER BELIVE ME” he was correct.
Last month in Waco, I had a conversation with one of those staying there, about this very subject.
I asked them…”When you speak to me, whom are you addressing, to whom is it you think you are speaking.” They seemed reluctant to answer, I fel t sure they thought I was about to make some claim about my person in parallel to the conversation of Christ and Peter when Christ asked “Whom do ye say that I am?” But that is not where I was at, nor where I was going. After a pause of silence, I said to them asking leadingly…”Who is in this car right now?” The reply came…”Just us, you an me.” And I said, “No, you are wrong. We are engaged in a continual warfare that has been going on since before we ever were born to this world. And that is the difference between you and I. It is easy to forget that fact, to get caught up in this temporal reality and forget that realm, and I am more aware of that than you yourself are. When you speak, you see only you and me. But that it is not so. We are in the prescence of a host of witnesses, and they are here whether you acknowledge their presence or not.
When I speak, I speak to the whole host, I consider they are here listening and I address not only you but them as well, and some of those things which God would have me speak, is at times moreso directed at them than you and vice verce. But we are never alone, and in time, you will learn to hear as well. But right now, it is like there is wax in your ears, and you don’t hear. You want to, but you don’t.
I am continually in conversation with God. Have been for better than fifteen years now. I don’t see prayer the way most people do. There is not a time when I go to a closet at a set of time of day to pray to God. It’s like us riding in this car. We don’t talk the whole time, we don’t talk about the same subject the entire journey, but we know, even in silence the other is present. And we talk about whatever comes to mind, going from one subject to the next, and that is how I view prayer. I once heard a preacher speak of another who had reached a continual state of prayer, and I couldn’t grasp what he meant, though I now do. He mentioned…”Dr. John R, would be in a car, and see kids playing and smile and say…”they are beautiful…” and you would think he was speaking to you for a moment, then perhaps himself before realizing, in that moment, though you were in the car, so was another, and he oblivious to you on some level in that moment, and engaged in conversation with God.” I explained that myself now, some time later enjoy such a relationship, and speak with God in the presence of others, but usually only those I am comfortable with to know doing so would not greatly disturb them. Though many times I have to stop with this person or that and say…”I wasn’t speaking to you.” Some of them handle it better than others, and with some we take our conversation to private levels and communicate only on levels in thoughts, but he is always there, as is heaven and it’s witnesses, as is the adversary, but unlike the adversary, he always WILL BE THERE.
And even though I can, like Moses, point to an actual encounter when I first had an actual conversation with God, When he first spoke to me, not in vision, not in dream, but in word; I can likewise point to the overwhelming lack of faith I found in myself, and to many encounters, miracles sent not to convince the world of my commission, but rather sadly, myself.
So go easy on Moses and Aaron, remember they are only human, and lest be tempted to accuse them anyway in a condemning attitude, Lest you think it is easy to speak for God, I warn you, before you speak in doubt of others, we will see shortly Aaron and Miriam murmer against Moses, saying to themselves…”GOD SPEAKS TO US TO” but such simply was not true, not to the levels it was true with Moses. And as they soon found out, while he may not have spoken with them on the level he spoke to Moses, he certainly was listening. I warn against that kind of attitude, you may just get what you ask for, and when he speaks to you for the first time, if not the only time in this life, you will tremble.
Things you don’t count on when the time should come that God actually does speak to you…
Padded rooms and toilet paper.
It will be next week before I can get back in town, so I hope you have a great Sabbath, and will pick up with Exodus 6 fwd then.
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