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Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :( Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 1:18 pm Message modified by user vinvin November 3, 2009, 1:18 pm Mattel really SUCKS! Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

And then they wonder why I don't buy that many Barbies any more. Posted by Sugey on November 3, 2009, 10:36 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" This is why!!  Post a Response

This does not surprise me at all. I remember raising my eyebrows when I saw his name LOL! Mattel? Posted by Deborah (The Wench) in Cincy on November 3, 2009, 9:45 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" Crazy about dogs --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

No surprise! And now I read there are no AA dolls in the Palm Beach line. Mattel....... Posted by francastwigg on November 3, 2009, 8:19 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" obviously doesn't want my money! --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

Where did you read that? Did they cancel Kaftan Barbie also?!? She was my OTHER favorite one! Posted by Michael W. on November 3, 2009, 9:05 pm, in reply to "No surprise! And now I read there are no AA dolls in the Palm Beach line. Mattel....... " Please clarify...I can't stand the thought of losing Sugar Daddy and Kaftan both in one day. Palm Beach Michael W. (with Sunscreen SPF 50)  Post a Response

It was posted on the BFC Board Posted by clarus97 on November 3, 2009, 9:19 pm, in reply to "Where did you read that? Did they cancel Kaftan Barbie also?!? She was my OTHER favorite one!" that one of the dealers learned from Mattel that all of the Palm Beach dolls are using a new tanned skin tone and that none of the dolls are AA. --Previous Message-- : Please clarify...I can't stand the thought of : losing Sugar Daddy and Kaftan both in one : day. : : Palm Beach Michael W. (with Sunscreen SPF : 50) :  Post a Response

Oh no....I really wanted him...he was so cool !! phoofy on Mattel ! Posted by MarC on November 3, 2009, 7:55 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" nm --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

I can't believe that Mattel said he was "an early concept". WORST EXCUSE EVER (msg) Posted by Stan on November 3, 2009, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" Mattel is VERY picky on what they choose to sneak; so I am very suspicious about how it is claimed that Ken was a preliminary sneak that was not intended for market. If that where true, we should be getting sneaks every week instead of once every 3 months. Obviously, they chickened out after the publicity. I will definitely be more inclined to spend my doll dollars with other companies who listen to their own consumer base.  Post a Response

It was a crock! Dealers had Ken on their pre-order lists already...come on- we're not FOUR years old Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 7:38 pm, in reply to "I can't believe that Mattel said he was "an early concept". WORST EXCUSE EVER (msg)" --Previous Message-- : Mattel is VERY picky on what they choose to : sneak; so I am very suspicious about how it : is claimed that Ken was a preliminary sneak : that was not intended for market. If that : where true, we should be getting sneaks : every week instead of once every 3 months. : : Obviously, they chickened out after the : publicity. I will definitely be more : inclined to spend my doll dollars with other : companies who listen to their own consumer : base. : Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

Doesn't surprise me at all. The minute all the "gay" stuff circulated I knew he was doomed.. Posted by Cleve in Long Beach on November 3, 2009, 5:47 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" "Earring Magic" much? It's the same thing they did with that doll. The minute people complain..Mattel cuts the chord. So for the most part we'll all have to have super safe, socially expectable dolls perfect for middle America! Don't count on Mattel to take any risks. I'm surprised they didn't cut the life support for Black Canary Barbie that got all the stones thrown at her for the fishnet stockings!!! I guess that's the advantage of buying Integrity...they know how to treat their adult collectors like ADULTS and provide freedom of choice. Don't like it? Dont' buy it! It's nice to have choices! --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

Jeff just told me that it was in the NYC papers/USA Today regarding the 'gay' KEN correlation Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 5:19 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" and the controversary surrounding it. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Isn't there anything else for those MORONs of those papers to report? Do they realize how they start fire-storms among these 'groups' or 'cults' or psychotic dip-wads or whatever they are? What a load of crap. Ken is a DOLL...he's not running for office, he's not teaching 'their' kids in school... and he's not going to rally for gay marriage rights - GET OVER YOURSELVES you elitist, self-imposing crack pots with more time than skeletons in your closets......The Ken doll is just that - an inanimate object aimed toward the collecting market; something that makes the collector happy and enhances OUR collecting experience. THAT's ALL! --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

Sorry, I no longer buy their contrived PR stunts. Posted by URIAH on November 3, 2009, 5:18 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" if they really cancelled him, they had no plans of making him at all.... this is not a new thing for them here are the steps: 1. Create Vaguely Interesting Dolls 2. Push known buttons to gather interest 3. Work with PR Firms to get people talking and "protest" 4. Generate interest in otherwise played out theme seriously...he was the only thing interesting in the line....if he doesn't ever arrive, it's not because they actually planned to make him. it's because they needed some PR to sell a 180 buck non-articulated doll in a printed caftan....  Post a Response

I think you're right, it may very well be a marketing stunt Posted by Tamara on November 3, 2009, 7:01 pm, in reply to "Sorry, I no longer buy their contrived PR stunts." There is a saying "bad publicity" is better than no publicity. It DOES have everyone talking about Mattel (not just those who are upset the doll was cancelled but also those who MIGHT have protested such a doll (who knows if anyone actually protested at all or it was just made up by Mattel PR). So what if they tick off a few collectors, they get FREE publicity all over the place with the controversy and people ARE talking about Mattel  Post a Response

Just a gut feeling but I don't think its contrived...First, when he was debuted back at the end of.. Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 7:36 pm, in reply to "I think you're right, it may very well be a marketing stunt" Summer...he was titled 'Sugar Daddy'...then within 36 hours - the sneak peek was gone. he re-emerged a couple weeks ago as Palm Beach Ken...but I guess the damage had been done...then it was written up in USAToday last week with the controversy starting. I doubt that Mattel has that much pull where they can delegate what/when/where a story regarding their dolls (controversial or otherwise) goes in a paper like USA Today! lol Below is a link to a an article that totally disses the idea of the dolls and uses sarcasm in the description (e.g.Today Sugar Daddy Ken - whats next - Octo Barbie or Barbie and Ken as Jon and Kate Gosselin?) and second...the post was linked on the BC Bulletin board this afternoon... the ENTIRE THREAD was pulled/deleted. Mattel is going to lay low on this one - I doubt they are proud of their decision...especially since most if not ALL of their male designers that generate many of their top collector brands/lines are in fact gay and they have basically sold out to the masses of bible-thumpers/moral majorities on this one - that basically is saying "We were wrong to design such a doll"..."we're sorry and we'll remove it from our product line." I would be ashamed if I worked for 'M' right now. Very ashamed. IF they indeed contrived such a 'HOAX' they run the risk of it backfiring with the collecting community. I for one am not purchasing ANY of the Silkstones for next year...I was going to only boycott the Palm Beach line - but I will not buy any of the collector lines next year. Especially at their recently inflated price points! If I purchase any dolls next year- they will be entirely Integrity and tonner. Check out the link below...its interesting that a company that supposedly 'caters' to it's loyal collectors, (and I am sure 1/3 to nearly half of that community are gay males) would bow to such antiquated BS from bible-touting bullies! Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950 Link: Parent Dish...A self absorbed, self righteous BS Board!  Post a Response

I agree. If they though it would sell, it would not have been cancelled. Posted by Spotty Jane on November 3, 2009, 7:00 pm, in reply to "Sorry, I no longer buy their contrived PR stunts." --Previous Message-- : if they really cancelled him, they had no : plans of making him at all.... this is not a : new thing for them : : here are the steps: : : 1. Create Vaguely Interesting Dolls : 2. Push known buttons to gather interest : 3. Work with PR Firms to get people talking : and "protest" : 4. Generate interest in otherwise played : out theme : : seriously...he was the only thing : interesting in the line....if he doesn't : ever arrive, it's not because they actually : planned to make him. it's because they : needed some PR to sell a 180 buck : non-articulated doll in a printed caftan.... :  Post a Response

It's very disappointing. I really wanted him for my collection. Posted by Alex's doll on November 3, 2009, 4:48 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : _________________________________________________________ Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. - Douglas Adams  Post a Response

You know what's really ironic? This Ken most likely would have SOLD OUT within the first few weeks! Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 4:50 pm, in reply to "It's very disappointing. I really wanted him for my collection." Message modified by user vinvin November 3, 2009, 4:51 pm Dumb-a$$es...totally dumb on their part! --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : : : Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

Good grief, couldn't they have just renamed him? Posted by Emily on November 3, 2009, 4:18 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

Shame, that's the ony one I wanted Posted by ScottWashDC on November 3, 2009, 4:13 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

I am so upset about this, he's the first Silkstone I've been tempted by for years (msg) Posted by LizardgirlW (In Austin) on November 3, 2009, 3:46 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" The Morose One ok the name thing probably not a great idea, but his outfit was great, and totally fitting with the idea of a 1950s-ish (I always think of the FMC as existing in their own little 1950sish universe) man in a hot climate. And I love the Maltese! Very very angry. I'm so freaking tired of Mattel constantly doing this thing where, with their adult lines, they bow to idiotic mainstream pressure because they're not 'suitable for children', (which is bullshit btw). It happened with the lingerie dolls, (about the time I stopped buying Silkstones, I love dolly lingerie) and now they're doing it again. The worst part is, the vast majority of collectors really liked him, a lot, even! But no, we must listen to the whacked out minority wingnuts and mainstream press to decide what adult collectors want. This is such crap. Liz W (In Austin) See my Doll Page Show & Sell Gallery Here http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=1035 My flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabidpoodle/  Post a Response

Totally agree...I think I will boycott the 'other' silkies now...I hope everyone will do the same... Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 3:56 pm, in reply to "I am so upset about this, he's the first Silkstone I've been tempted by for years (msg)" until they bring that EXACT Ken back to the line up. If they are going to listen to the NON doll people...then they don't deserve MY doll-collecting business; let them try to squeeze money from those MoralMajorityMorons and watch how fast the company will suffer. Do the liquor manufacturers stop selling their product because the teens are drinking it and getting in trouble? NO! Why then should a NONpaying a$$hole have such an effect on a company that doesn't consider them part of their target collectors!?!?!?!?!? I will save a TON of money - (I was planning on the entire line of Silkies) - I'm done - until they bring back SUGAR DADDY/PALM BEACH Ken (and go back to that exact original name...it's nearly 2010 folks at Mattel - did we just step off the Mayflower?!?). Idiots. --Previous Message-- : ok the name thing probably not a great idea, : but his outfit was great, and totally : fitting with the idea of a 1950s-ish (I : always think of the FMC as existing in their : own little 1950sish universe) man in a hot : climate. And I love the Maltese! Very : very angry. : : I'm so freaking tired of Mattel constantly : doing this thing where, with their adult : lines, they bow to idiotic mainstream : pressure because they're not 'suitable for : children', (which is bullshit btw). It : happened with the lingerie dolls, (about the : time I stopped buying Silkstones, I love : dolly lingerie) and now they're doing it : again. : : The worst part is, the vast majority of : collectors really liked him, a lot, even! : But no, we must listen to the whacked out : minority wingnuts and mainstream press to : decide what adult collectors want. This is : such crap. : Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

Totally agree with you too, Vin. This is idiocy on their part. I may never buy (msg) Posted by LizardgirlW (In Austin) on November 3, 2009, 4:03 pm, in reply to "Totally agree...I think I will boycott the 'other' silkies now...I hope everyone will do the same..." The Morose One another silkie again, and will really have to think about my collecting priorities on collector stuff from now on. I've had it with Mattel catering to people who don't buy or collect dolls. Why do they have more rights than we, who line their pocketbooks, do? Liz W (In Austin) See my Doll Page Show & Sell Gallery Here http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=1035 My flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/rabidpoodle/  Post a Response

You said it Liz. Make you go Hmmmm Doesn't it? Posted by Kathy M in CO on November 3, 2009, 4:07 pm, in reply to "Totally agree with you too, Vin. This is idiocy on their part. I may never buy (msg)" --Previous Message-- : another silkie again, and will really have to : think about my collecting priorities on : collector stuff from now on. : : I've had it with Mattel catering to people : who don't buy or collect dolls. Why do they : have more rights than we, who line their : pocketbooks, do? :  Post a Response

Mattel Has Just Lost Any Money From Me For Good Posted by clarus97 on November 3, 2009, 3:13 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" The way they have handled this situation has been abysmal. People were expressing their concerns and frustrations about the dropping of Ken in two separate threads on the BFC Board. So what was the response we got? They deleted the threads. No explanation. Nothing. Just gone. Absolutely infuriating. --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

I was saving my pennys for him, although with that name, he should have paid for himself! Posted by Kathy M in CO on November 3, 2009, 2:51 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" Message modified by user Kathy M in CO November 3, 2009, 2:53 pm --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

Re: Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :( Posted by pattidolls on November 3, 2009, 2:38 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

Why would they do that? Good grief, how stupid to go as far > Posted by Mary W. in AZ on November 3, 2009, 2:36 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" The Notty One as making a prototype and promoting it then canceling it. What was the reason? ()() ( '' ) ( .. )o notty bunny™ ~We're all ok, until the day we're not~  Post a Response

I know...right!? It's because they're trying to please every moral majority Dip-Wad NON-doll ..m Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 3:04 pm, in reply to "Why would they do that? Good grief, how stupid to go as far >" Message modified by user vinvin November 3, 2009, 3:08 pm collecting A$$hole out there - like THEY matter. Ummmm...the last time I checked...it was OUR money keeping them in business....NOT the 'Holy-Rollin' Pistol packin' PTA'ers' !!! The doll is clearly stated to be an ADULT collectible...NOT for their prim little urchins (that probably know more than their parents could imagine)! I am so sick of the moral majority morons telling us what's good for us and what's bad for us... sorry, but all of society is not based on what's good for THEIR children/family only. Those are the kids that go wild once they get out of their parents "clutches" and end up proving that their 'good/clean living' doesn't always produce a 'good/clean' adult! BAH! (mad) Mattel is like a wishy washy politician...they are ALWAYS trying to make the WRONG people happy! --Previous Message-- : : : : as making a prototype and promoting it then : canceling it. What was the reason? : : ()() : ( '' ) : ( .. )o : : notty bunny™ : : : : Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

That doesn't come as a surprise at all- I thought it was a funny idea, but>> Posted by Steven with a V on November 3, 2009, 2:31 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" The Pretty One It was inevitable- People complained that Barbie was wearing underwear, did they really not think that calling Ken a "sugar daddy" would be inappropriate? If they had planned on producing him, someone would have complained. I think it was a bad idea to first of all show something that they weren't offering, and second of all calling him a sugar daddy. I actually find that entire line kind of tacky- I don't collect Silkstones anymore- but if I did, I would have passed on that line. --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : I will do anything to be popular, except vandalize my stunning beauty!  Post a Response

Well, that sucks:( Posted by SethFX on November 3, 2009, 2:05 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : No Matter where you go, there you are.  Post a Response

that blows I thought he was awesome I was working on a Diorama with him in Mind :( Posted by wilbcliche on November 3, 2009, 1:47 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" slave to the Sybs --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : Celebrate the love you have  Post a Response

What?! That was the only one I wanted!!! Posted by itsjustjodi on November 3, 2009, 1:33 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : :  Post a Response

Doesn't that suck? Did you read the BFC board thread? Posted by Terri/NY on November 3, 2009, 1:33 pm, in reply to "Ohhhhh NOOOO....I just read on ITP that "Sugar Daddy" Silkstone Ken has been cancelled!!!! :(" --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : MY BLOG: http://terrigoldphoto.blogspot.com SALES PAGES: http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=288  Post a Response

Wow, so they even deleted the references to him on the board? I'll join the boycott,too. Posted by liz/pa on November 3, 2009, 7:09 pm, in reply to "Doesn't that suck? Did you read the BFC board thread?" --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : : :  Post a Response

Well, the original sticky thread by LizG is still there. I give it until the weekend though. nm Posted by Stan on November 3, 2009, 7:25 pm, in reply to "Wow, so they even deleted the references to him on the board? I'll join the boycott,too." --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : : : : :  Post a Response

yes but whats the use...they LOCKED it up and no more replies are allowed... talk about corporate BS Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 7:42 pm, in reply to "Well, the original sticky thread by LizG is still there. I give it until the weekend though. nm" --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : : : : : : : Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

I found it right before THEY deleted it! Wow...talk about censorship...that was lame! :( Posted by Vin on November 3, 2009, 4:47 pm, in reply to "Doesn't that suck? Did you read the BFC board thread?" --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : : : Check out My Show and Sell Pgs! http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=950  Post a Response

OMG it was deleted? I heard about things happening like that. What a shame. Posted by Terri/NY on November 3, 2009, 4:48 pm, in reply to "I found it right before THEY deleted it! Wow...talk about censorship...that was lame! :(" --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : Mattel really SUCKS! : : : : : : : : MY BLOG: http://terrigoldphoto.blogspot.com SALES PAGES: http://www.thedollpage.com/showsell/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=288  Post a Response

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