Chad I posted this thread to show you guys how to put the sliders onto your line. Your coments and opinions are valued on this subject as most of us don't have the opportunities to do the amount of fishing that you do. I was asked to manufacture some sliders , we made several different shapes and sizes long ones short ones . After much research and giving people like Gary K ( for those who don't know Gary was one of the founders of the LBG club in NZ so I value his opinion .) samples and we ended up with our version of the live bait slider . As a manufacturer we always strive to supply the best products possible so any constructive opinions are welcomed. I have been thinking about the tangling all day and can not see why it should be worse than the other, am I missing something .