Posted by Rodehard on January 20, 2008, 12:04 pm, in reply to "Re: Hillary and the Christian Right"
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Your confusing instinct with reason and are anthropomorphizing. Germs, insects etc react to conditions around them, chemical, temperature etc. but as far as we can determine there is no cogitation occurring. The unintentional consequence of our intelligence is that we, humans, see co operative behavior as good and aggressive behavior as bad. Good and bad doesnt exist in nature, it is a human concept. Again, the unintended consequence of intelligence. War is a terrible thing but from natures point of view no more morally wrong than ants invading a termite nest. Anyway, my point through all of this is not to defend war or Iraq but to simply put them in the proper perspective. So yes, I would like to see peace break out in the middle east but no Im not stupid enough to think that just pulling out will solve all our problems. Or any of them for that matter. If your not smart enough to defend yourself nature doesnt care and the aggressor hopes you never figure it out.
--Previous Message--
: I believe that although we share the larger
: picture to some extent, I am not so sure
: that I we are on the same page, and that's
: fine because people don't have to totally
: agree on every detail in order to achieve
: similar goals. The predatory analogy that
: you cite doesn't always ring true, that's
: like saying muscle or power is the only road
: to gain intellect, and that passive
: creatures can't attain intelligence, I guess
: I have to bore you with examples from animal
: life to human existence when the seemingly
: passive underdog comes out on top, If you
: think about it exists in every form from the
: smallest life forms bacterium, viruses, to
: insects, to reptiles, to mammals and
: primates, and humans. Just give it a
: thought and you will yourself come up with
: examples in each class where the passive is
: preyed upon, and in the end emerge
: victorious. Germs lay latent in our bodies
: for years then attack then outsmart the
: aggressive immune system and make us sick or
: kill us. I give you a small poisonous toad,
: and its excretion kills its attacker, how
: about the skunk and the porccipine how about
: Indira Gandhi or Nelson Mandela not exactly
: unintelligent but all very passive, really
: we can go on and on about animals and cite
: all the great generals that were out
: numbered but never out foxed, bla bla bla
: bla bla. I will hope that we as a country
: stay aggressive to a fault in defending our
: borders be it from illegal aliens sneaking
: into our country to terrorist threats, I
: still don't think invading Iraq, was the
: kind of aggression that helped us to gain
: anything intellectually. Actually it exposed
: to the entire world the intellectual morass
: this administration stands on, just
: perpetuating the myth of the "ugly
: Americans".
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: --Previous Message--
: Yes, we share the scars with men of every
: generation as far back as time goes. It has,
: as they say, always been so. I understand
: your position but look at it a little
: differently. I dont believe a passive
: creature can really attain intelligence. Why
: bother? Generally, the predator must be
: smarter than the pray and certainly more
: aggressive. At least in the higher animals.
: An unintended consequence of our
: intelligence was the conscience.
: How we will resolve this conflict in our
: nature I dont know but in this context war
: is a symptom not the disease. I think
: humanity stands on the brink of success or
: failure. So to me its important that whoever
: is in the Whitehouse has as close a grip on
: reality as possible. Not a soul committed to
: a single cause. Be it Dem or Repub I dont
: care. Either way, we both want the same
: thing.
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