Re: Another Example
yes yes --- action does speak much louder then words -------------
I have noticed that politicians often say one thing and do another. I recall watching President Bush (the younger) on C Span near the end of his term speaking at a think tank event. I recall thinking how much I agreed with everything he said. But, when I thought about what he had done as president, and how it was often 180 degrees away from what he was saying, I lost even more respect for him. I am a firm believer in evaluating people by their actions rather than what they say. I suppose their is too much politics in being the President of a University.
We did talk about that as well, and she is still in favor of LBSU!!!
When I had dinner with her shortly after she was hired, I lobbied her to address the LBSU/CSULB issue. I suggested that LBSU would be a much better approach, was preferred by alumni especially for sports teams, and that it would start to clear up the confusing branding situation we have been in. She said that she prefers LBSU as well but to be patient it would take time to get everyone on board. Well?
Dennis thank you for always trying to make things better for LB sports. Based on what you've stated, Jane is being two faced, telling you what you want to hear while telling others what they want to hear.
Jane ignored alumni and instead rigged a vote of current students that got rid of the 49er name for sports and the Pete mascot, both of which she wrongly equated with some evils perpetrated by some gold miners and related interests, and gave us a gender neutral shark named Elbee which makes most alumni sick to their stomach. Prospector Pete as we all know was in reference to our first school President, and the 49er name to the fact we were founded in 1949. Yes, we used connotations to gold miners in our branding because of the rich history in California of that historical event. So I would understand if we distanced our branding from gold miners and left it at that. Jane was definitely in favor of disbanding our traditions in entirety in favor of a stance of a minority of very loud and persistent voices that probably resonated well with her personal ideology.
To hear that she admired your 49er / Pete gear you wear to games, that comment makes me sick to my stomach and shows she is a two-faced liar. I have precious little respect for her and whatever support she has given athletics has been double destroyed by this absolutely stupid stance she took while totally ignoring alumni. Now she wants boosters (aka mostly alumni) to help fund her stupidity and forgive her? I wish you'd told her to jump off a cliff. I'll never give another dime to LBSU until she is gone, and I'll be reluctant to give anything even then unless the new school President makes some bold moves to reinstate the traditions Jane has stupidly taken from us. I get Prospector Pete is never coming back and can live with that if they do away with Elbee and bring back the 49er name. As for the Beach that is fine if used to compliment our branding, instead of the gold miner references.
I waited days to respond to your post because I wanted to make sure how I felt about this. I really do appreciate all you do and even posting this was so revelatory I thank you for that as well!
While in Henderson, for the Big West Basketball Tournament, Susan and I were invited to a meeting with President Jane Conoley, her husband Collie, and new VP of University Relations and Development, Dan Montoya. This was not my first meeting with Jane, but it was the first where we just sat and discussed issues that basically pertained to Long Beach State Athletics.
I know that many of you have felt that Jane really does not support athletics. Based on the things that I have done over the years, both for and with the school, I have seen a different side of Jane than most of you. I have always felt she was pro athletics and know she has helped athletics financially when she could. This meeting further convinced me that she has been good for athletics in the past and I believe that she will continue to be so in the future.
During the meeting, I asked questions that were important to me, and I attempted to bring up many of the issues that have been discussed on the message board over the past few years. I would say that Jane and Dan are very much aware of issues that have concerned me, and most of you who post on the message board.
Based upon the financial issues that have impacted the school over the last few years, many of them caused by the COVID virus, the things that could or should have been done that would help the school in general, and athletics in particular have been VERY hard to accomplish. Jane said there are a number of things that she would have liked to do, but without available funds were impossible to do.
Jane needs to wear many hats and is pulled in many different directions as President of Long Beach State. At this point, the school is heavily in debt. That includes over $5M from Athletic overruns but does not include the Pyramid “leaking” issue. Dan Montoya has been brought in as the VP of University Relations and Development. In short, this means that he heads-up overall fund raising for the university.
Our university is no different than the rest of our country. We have lots of people with lots of valid needs and wants, but little or no way to pay for these needs and wants. The punch line for those of us that support athletic is that we need to help to find revenue sources that can be funneled to athletics.
We had an open and frank discussions about how we could raise more money for athletics. Yes, they were both aware that WINNING is the best way to increase revenue for athletics and I believe that we WILL see changes in the future that will help that!
From what I heard, I believe there is a very good chance student fees will be increased before the start of the new school year and a part of that will help athletics. Jane would like all of us who love and support athletics that she hears us, but much of what we would like to see happen cost money, which is in very short supply right now. A ship as big as Long Beach State is very hard to turn or respond to in a short period of time. At a time when circumstances, such as COVID, have put a heavy financial burden on the school, we have boosters who are stopping or suspending their donations until changes are made. Jane understands your rational, but also wants you to understand that doing so is contributing to the problem. She gets where you are coming from but asks that you understand the overall issues facing her and the university. Please recognize that it takes money to change things for the better.
For me and Susan, we came away from the meeting with better understanding of the problems that Jane faces with respect to the overall university and for athletics in particular. I am convinced Jane wants athletics to be successful and feels that athletics is valuable to the university on a variety of fronts. I have high hopes that Dan can come in with some new ideas. He has had experience at SDSU and Loyola and seems to be willing to work hard and listen to new ideas.
Now, let’s stand back and look at the financial picture. Say we have 250,000 graduates from Long Beach State. If each one of them would contribute $49 to the university on an annual basis, that would raise $12,500,000 each year, which could turn us from the university that we are to the kind of a university that all of us want us to be. Or maybe 1,000 grads each contribute $12,500 each year. Or 500 grads each contribute $25,000 each year. As you can see, it is all in the numbers. If everyone does a little, we could be very successful. But.. most want a few to do a lot!!! Let’s all see what we can do to HELP the university that we all love and so desperately want to be a HUGE success!!!
If you see us at games in the next few months, feel free to stop by and say hello. Susan and I will be happy to tell you a little more about our meeting with Jane and Dan. And to end this little note on the light side, Jane said she admired the 49’er/Prospector Pete jack I wear to most of the games!!!
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