We shall see which of these 2 qb's lobbies for $50m 1st.

I will say this as a fact. Kyler was correct in speaking out for more reps in camp.

Everything we heard from observers was the competition wasn't close...as the saying goes, if you have 2 qb's you have none.

JJ is gone from Minnesota. The Vikings have 1 QB now.
It's not like they dumped a struggling Caleb Williams. A QB with 40 NCAA starts that threw the ball all over the field every game.

The Vikings moved on from a QB that never had to throw 40 passes in a game to go undefeated. A guy with 20< college games and a handful of NFL games through 3? seasons.

Keep him or move on?
Damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
A better HC? I doubt McCarthy is forced out of Minnesota. But everyone except I thinks KOC is a top 5 hc. Kevie wasn't going to be the clown forced to leave.

I don't see Murray being the right fit either. Let's face it. KOC is never* going to win with an off script scramble and make a play QB. I shouldn't say never*.
Holmgren had to learn to accept Favres gunslinger way and quit trying to make favre something he wasn't.
When? At any point? Does koc recognize he is the one that needs to change. Embrace that NFL QB project is rarely a pocket statue anymore.

Vikings are 6-0 with Kyler as the anointed starter.
Did the Vikings ever even go on a 3-0 run with McCarthy anointed?

So we'll put you on record PH, signing Murray was a mistake. JJ or bust was the better path.

If you have 2 qb's, you have none. Ive
Moved on.

Keeping darnold was the drum to beat. That pocket statue fit what koc wants to do.
Drafting bo nix or pennix was a koc fit as well. Coulda shoulda woulda should be reserved for those 3 players.
Paying McCarthy or Murray $50 mil?
Bad idea unless KOC exits the day the contract is signed.

Unless.... Koc pulls a holmgren this season forward- and suddenly accepts his qb's best asset is his legs, not his arm.
Off script Murray is a star.
Murray forced to stay in the pocket? That is a lunch special. Disaster on rye with a side of yesterday slaw.

At 6-0. If the biggest problem is they moved on from an avg(at best) QB?

Every fan of every team will take it 10 seasons in 10 years.

I wonder, does change of scenery help McCarthy or Murray more?
Murray leaves az for an offense that doesn't want off script QB play
Mccarthy goes to play for the HC that had Lamar for every snap of his pro career.

Ph, you're trying to call this out as if none of these things matter.
Hint. Koc is not john harbaugh. Not remotely. Murray has been around enough he can play inside a bad scheme fit. McCarthy? Nowhere near enough experience to lead & win I spite of KOC.

The correct post mortem is as I said.
Move on. Koc isn't leaving and McCarthy wasn't going to succeed under that hc. That is the reality

So they got the contract off the books and received a day 3 draft pick.
What's the problem.

Ph, you want to bring up what the ppl involved are saying... What did McCarthy say?
Something to the effect of- "after 1 week I can already see this team is a better fit for me."
That's the reality instead of some apples/oranges straw man hogwash you're offering.

It is pure irony we are almost full circle on the orgins of this... Hire KOC or Jim Harbaugh and then have the misfit QB get his 2nd chance with brother John.
Problems often occur resulting from decisions mostly forgotten. Our beloved vikings excel at this. That is the true problem.

Everybody gets the blame around Eagan except the ones deserving the blame. Koc & the wilfs. And this 6-0 start likely ensures koc will continue in his job for another 5 years minimum.... Oops!