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IVECO van
Posted by geoff the bonnie on January 23, 2023, 10:40 pm
Down the garage Today and there was a LWB hight top Iveco van in for minor repairs. Starter motor failed. 5 years old and already unreliable. It had over 300,000 miles on it ! Well worth buying one if you need a large van. It had been used for daily drives up to Scotland in its early years. Still running very quietly and panelwork all good. Buyer had paid just 4,000 pounds for it at 3 years old.Just being used for moving local furniture now its retiring.
Re: IVECO van
Posted by Leon Novello on January 24, 2023, 12:04 am, in reply to "IVECO van"
Could be a spare for Jerry.Leon Novello
Re: IVECO van
Posted by JERRY on January 24, 2023, 10:24 am, in reply to "IVECO van"
They are very good van but a lot of them are twin rear wheel so no good for me. I have a Peugeot Boxer. Not over impressed. Use a lot of oil as its the same engine tey use in the Transits, Renoult Traffic etc. If the oil runs too low the turbo stops working, not good when stuck on a motorway at 50mph and 35mph uphill. Wish I had payed more money and bought a Merc Sprinter.The oldest rocker in town!
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Posted by geoff the bonnie on January 24, 2023, 10:32 am, in reply to "Re: IVECO van"
Jerry, the Iveco was single rear wheels and a bit bigger than a Merc Sprinter. Owner says he can get close to 40mpg when no load. My boy has a Mer Sprinter just converted to a motor home last year from being a disabled bus with a lot of windows. The Merc was just 2500 pounds bought last year. That one is fairly old but very light use transporting OAPs to the shops or Hospitals. Peugeot engines are very long lasting and usually manage over 160,000 miles. My 2 boys who mend these vans would agree that the transit is to be avoided if high mileage and older due to the underside rotting out. Merc seems to be the outstanding van, but the Iveco in the garage has proven to be durable. Possibly due to a lot of long distance running
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Posted by Tonupdave on January 24, 2023, 11:25 am, in reply to "Re: IVECO van"
Just reading that delivery drivers and small firms in London can't get new vans that are compatible with the London new emissions zone there are no enough produced???? Two good friends live just the wrong side of the M25 one actually in the shadow they both will have to change their cars..and guess what the pollution levels are still the same..Tonupdave..T.U.D.
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Posted by JERRY on January 24, 2023, 11:35 am, in reply to "Re: IVECO van"
Its a Khan tax Dave, that's all!!!The oldest rocker in town!
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Posted by Nigel B on January 24, 2023, 11:36 am, in reply to "Re: IVECO van"
I have a Peugeot Boxer. Not over impressed.
Should have bought the Fiat Ducato version of the Sevel van Jerry - the 2.3 litre engine used in the Fiats is a bomb-proof Iveco unit. I have had 4 motorhomes with differing versions of this engine & all have used no oil between changes. Decent fuel consumption as well, typically around 30-32 mpg for a van & 2 bike trailer combo running at around 4.1 tonnes.
The miserable Euro 6 "170 hp" Transit I made the misatke of buying was dire by comparison - low to mid 20s fuel consumption & used oil. One of it's many recalls before I ditched it was to fit a shorter disptick to increase the useable sump capacity by a litre due to the high oil consumption. Utter POS, I got rid after 6 months for another Fiat.
Older model Mercs (i.e pre-current model) don't get too good a write-up from motorhome users - not great reliabilty, poor finish & high dealer costs.
Nigel B.
Re: IVECO van
Posted by JERRY on January 24, 2023, 11:52 am, in reply to "Re: IVECO van"
I used to borrow a Fiat Ducato Nige. Very impressed but typical when I was looking to change my last van couldn't find a good one. The Boxer came up with only 46000 miles and Euro 6 which I need. It's ok as long as I keep an eye on the oil level and I do get around 35 mph on a run. I'm cutting back on the bike deliveries now so it will mainly be used to transport my race bikes to the circuits and of course to sleep in. I'm sure it will last me depending on how long I stay healthy and can still use my race bikes.The oldest rocker in town!
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Posted by Nigel B on January 24, 2023, 4:05 pm, in reply to "Re: IVECO van"
There have been substantial Fiat Ducato shortages for the last couple of years due, I understand, to shortages of the Iveco engines. Other Sevel vans have not been affected and many motorhome manufacturers who per-pandemic were Fiat only have had to start building on Peugeot, Citroen or Ford base vehicles instead.
The MH dealer I have had most of my vans from won't stock Citroen based vans after a bad experience with Citroen backup - basically non existant for the commercials. On one which went faulty he had to get it fixed via back door channels at a Peugeot dealer (the Peugeot & Citroen versions are basically the same vehicles with "badge engineering", where the Fiat version is a lot different) after the Citroen car dealer couldn't sort it out.
I don't think the Euro 6 PSA engine is anything to do with Ford - the earlier 2.2 litre lump was some form of joint venture between the two organisations, but with the 2 litre Euro 6 versions they went separate ways.
I disliked the Ford engine - supposedly 170 hp it had less useable performance that the 130 hp Fiat I p/xed for it, & used a lot more fuel in the process. It also had bizzarely high gearing and no real performance below 1750 rpm, which made setting off from standstill a toss-up between stalling & or wheelspin and 60mph was 1650 rpm in top, so 6th gear was only useable on the flat or down hill. First sign of a hill it was down to 4th, as it wouldn't pull in 5th either. Might have been OK in something lightweight like a Mondeo or Focus, but useless in a motorhome
Trying to get it fixed after it went into limp mode on the way home from picking it up (32 miles on the clock when it went in to the local Ford "Transit Centre" ! ) was a nightmare and took around 6 weeks due to lack of spares - and this was pre-pandemic. As supplied it had an outstanding recall to replace the cam drive assembly & the dealer wouldn't look at the limp mode problem until that was fixed because Ford wouldn't let them. Limp mode was eventually diagnosed as duff injectors, which were on back order. When they did come available, it took 3 weeks to get them from Cologne to Huddersfield - not very urgent for a new vahicle sat undriveable in the dealer. Ford's generous compensation for 6 weeks off the road on a new van ? - £100 service voucher that could not be used against buying oil ! I found out later from the MH dealer that the second owner had to have all 4 injectors replaced again less than a year after I had had them done
on January 23, 2023, 10:40 pm