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Cost of living. Posted by Ralph on May 5, 2022, 9:06 pm Listen and learn.

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Daniel H on May 5, 2022, 9:43 pm, in reply to "Cost of living." The concept of legislating your way to happiness is literally insane. The problem is not outside of you. Money in Mexico = remittances First-quarter remittances by Mexicans working abroad hit record US $12.5 billion https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/first-quarter-remittances-up-18-percent/

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Camaron on May 5, 2022, 11:26 pm, in reply to "Cost of living." Amen Brother

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Dennis F on May 6, 2022, 10:59 am, in reply to "Cost of living." Great video! Hmmm, sorta reminds me of some place else.

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Aries on May 6, 2022, 8:59 pm, in reply to "Cost of living." I totally agree with his assessment. I came to Mexico to live with Mexicans and learn from Mexicans, not get more gringos telling me what they expect from me in a country that is NOT theirs. It's why I left the Yucatan Peninsula; too many gringos blew up the prices and spoiled the culture. I hope La Manz doesn't go that way. But we are already on the cusp, and I have already experiencd my first Karen here, who wasn't named Karen.

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Stephanie on May 6, 2022, 9:38 pm, in reply to "Cost of living." Places change as change happens, sometimes for the good, sometimes not…but sometimes newbies come and have their own expectations of what they want instead of what is! But to call a person a Karen is well a bit passive-aggressive!

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Beccistarr on May 7, 2022, 7:29 am, in reply to "Re: Cost of living." I’ve always wondered exactly what being a Karen means… Karen is a pejorative term for a white woman perceived as entitled or demanding beyond the scope of what is normal. Aaah there are some in LaManz. I once had an employee in Boca who asked why people move/visit here and tell us what to do. My favorite example maybe 8 years ago wad a group of women in LM who wanted to change the diets of Mexican families from rice and beans on tortillas with cheese and hot sauce to more nutritious foods… 😂😂

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Daniel H on May 7, 2022, 11:26 am, in reply to "Re: Cost of living." Edited by board administrator May 7, 2022, 11:53 am The history of the word Karen is interesting https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/karen/ They may use a word other than Karen but I am sure that every culture has their Karen's. In the posted video, the creator is complaining about the Mexican culture being changed by a concentration of Gringos and uses the word Gringolandia. We are all raised in an environment that comprises both nature and nurture, behavioral norms, customs, languages etc i.e. we are all running a program. When we go to another culture we bring that program with us and would have to be consciously aware of that in order to appreciate another culture and change it as little as possible. Gringos live and hang out together mainly due to language, and unless they are consciously aware the tenancy to make their surroundings familiar to the place they came from follows. Its easier to change the surroundings to be more familiar than it is to adapt to the surroundings as they are. This is not unique to Gringos in Mexico, it happens to Mexican's or other cultures who move to the US for example. I don't think there is intentional malice or intent to change things it just happens over time. Wanting to improve the living conditions of the culture you are visiting to be more like where you came from is considered normal, and even admired in certain circumstances, like better healthcare, education etc. In that situation one must be even more attune to cultural differences. In reality even if you did nothing just your presence in the visiting culture changes things. The creator of the video needs to realize that there are places in Mexico that have become more like the US or Canada than Mexico. If he desires to live in real Mexico he needs to keep looking vs complaining about it.

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Jo Anna H on May 7, 2022, 12:25 pm, in reply to "Re: Cost of living." A splendid analysis, Daniel, thanks. I live in a land of transplants and tourists here in Canada ... and then, I AM one when I go to Mexico. I struggle with that stuff in both locales and certainly don't have an easy fix aside from, I guess, being aware and treading softly.

Re: Cost of living. Posted by Amrit on May 7, 2022, 5:00 pm, in reply to "Re: Cost of living." 🤩😄

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