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Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Ruby on February 4, 2023, 11:32 am Hi I am looking for information on someone from the US (Texas) coming to Mexico for assisted dying. Google is not much help, does anyone there have any information on this?

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Daniel H on February 4, 2023, 2:38 pm, in reply to "Assisted dying in Mexico?" Edited by board administrator February 4, 2023, 3:07 pm From what I can gather Mexico has not yet legalized assisted dying but I think it varies state to state. I have read stories on this message board about how difficult it is when someone dies here. Closest place to you is New Mexico, but you have to deal with crossing the border. States with Legal Medical Aid in Dying (MAID) https://euthanasia.procon.org/states-with-legal-physician-assisted-suicide/ searched using - assisted dying mexico - sorted by last year. https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=assisted%20dying%20in%20mexico

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Sherri H on February 4, 2023, 4:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" My experience with someone dying here, was that it was super straight forward with the paper work, and all else involved. Very easy and efficient.

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Maggi on February 5, 2023, 11:13 am, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" My friend in San Miguel basically just purchased the medication on his own and his partner created an intimate vigil for him with family and friends. He died with a smile on his face. Im looking into where to buy the medication now.

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Pamala/Gregorio on February 5, 2023, 5:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" I’m also very interested on where this can be purchased….

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Jack on February 5, 2023, 7:26 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" You could try a veterinarian, Pisabental..aka Nembutal.

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Ruby on February 5, 2023, 7:41 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" Thank you Sherri H. Maggi, that is the goal for us. We only know La Manzanilla but could land in Guadalajara and take a taxi to San Miguel if necessary. If you don't post here (I hope you do, others are interested) then please email me at wruby87@yahoo.com. Situation is urgent. Thank you all.

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Lynne on February 5, 2023, 10:45 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" If you want to go to San Miguel, fly into BJX instead of Guadalajara. There are many shuttle services that pick you up at the airport and take you directly to your SMA destination in just over an hour. If I remember correctly, BajiaGo is one of them.

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Maggi on February 6, 2023, 3:48 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" I am hoping to buy the drug at a pharmacy this winter, but have only so far checked in La Manzanilla. They do not have it but thought I might be able to get it in Melaque. I am going to Manzanillo this week and will check there as well. I've also sent an email to my friend in San Miguel who was involved with getting it for my the one who passed. Hopefully she will respond. Sorry I'm not more helpful as I know your request is urgent. This is the info I have thus far about the drug to use: high doses of three: morphine, diazepam—also known by its early brand name, Valium—and propranolol, a beta-blocker that slows the heart. They called the mixture DMP. In 2017, secobarbital was still the most commonly prescribed drug in Washington and Oregon, but in Colorado, DDMP2 was more commonly prescribed.

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Maggi on February 6, 2023, 4:01 pm, in reply to "Assisted dying in Mexico?" I’ve also considered this drug but I plan to do more research to understand how it Works A drug known as liquid pentobarbital is used by owners to euthanize pets. When given to humans, the drug can give them a painless death in under one hour. The pet shops across Mexico have such drugs.

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by M Morgan on February 6, 2023, 5:05 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" From the National Libray of Medicine: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6314932/ "Pentobarbital (PB) is a euthanasia drug in doses of 2 to 10 grams, causing death within 15–30 minutes. We report a case of recovery from lethal pentobarbital deliberate self-poisoning with confirmatory serum drug concentrations." "Pentobarbital (Nembutal) is a short-acting barbiturate sedative-hypnotic that is widely used in veterinary practice for anaesthesia and euthanasia. It is also recommended as a drug for euthanasia or assisted suicide due to its rapid onset of coma and perception of a peaceful death. These popular media reports of pentobarbital being a peaceful method of suicide have led to increased interest in obtaining it from jurisdictions where it is less regulated [1]. It is unlikely that any resuscitative measures will be undertaken in these circumstances"

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Daniel H on February 6, 2023, 5:27 pm, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" "The oral dosage of pentobarbital indicated for physician-assisted suicide in Oregon is typically 10 g of liquid.[10][11]" "A Swiss pharmacist reported in 2022 that the dose for assisted suicide had been raised to 15 grams because with lower doses in some cases death was preceded by a coma of up to 10 hours.[13]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentobarbital As J would say "little do good, more do better" Further up that wiki "It can also be used for short-term treatment of insomnia"

Re: Assisted dying in Mexico? Posted by Daniel H on February 7, 2023, 9:21 am, in reply to "Re: Assisted dying in Mexico?" Next thing is to find out what store has it. Has anyone asked our vet Abram about it?

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