I got a ton of respect for all the 181s..especially y'all hitting it unequipped.
I have a load of respect for Jamie and John. They could slap on gear and up their numbers but they stay raw... impressive.
A good (unnamed) friend of mine and I disagree. His point: if you can't gear up and hit outrageous numbers it ain't fun.
My point: continuous improvement without equipment measures a man against himself.
Again, the 181s are stacked. Even when I forget a name.