Personally, thank you all for todays input. Here, on the NZACA website and Chads questioneer. I am putting myself up for a VC as I feel have fought bravely and faced you all from all sides and am still here. To those that don't know me I am "The Yoey" and I am passionate about the NZACA. About raising its profile and helping it become the entity it should be. I believe it is happening. I started the change and I will continue till it is where it should be, not far away. In conclusion let me say, hand on heart, we are working hard for you all in areas that are not apparent. We do listen and we are not adverse to changes. Most of all we are not a group of old grey headed old men who get wheelchaired in to a room to drink tea. Thank you all for the feedback, time for bed and a rest for my fingers. My wife cant believe how fast I type now. Goodnight.