I have to agree with that but also they could have given us bigge hooks I had a good fish spit out the hook at whiritoa so have decided to play dirty and have tied a second hook onto the trace so the trokar hook trails behind the octopus skirt and I have a 5/0 mutsu sitting above it but protruding out from teh skirt to accomodate a big strip bait hoping to get back there during next week if I do not start the dump truck/watercart driving job winz has referred me to.