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    Re: NZACA Archived Message

    Posted by Hangler on 24/5/2012, 2:42 pm, in reply to "Re: NZACA"

    Subject normal, don't debate the innovative suggestion, just attack the writer, someone who actually dares to suggest an alternative point of view. This thread is supposed to be about upping the profile and membership of the NZACA but instead it quickly degenerated into personalities as per usual.

    Gary, has it ever occurred to you that people who fish with other methods may just get every bit as much enjoyment from a few hours on the beach as you? I have fished using all methods and have never witnessed a torpedo user slaughtering fish as you would have us believe, and that also includes from some of the better beaches in the Bay of Plenty. I've seen Mum, Dad and the kids all joining in and having a great time, then taking home a few fish for tea. Nothing I like more than doing this with my grandchildren. Perhaps the kids should stay at home on their PC's and I-pods. These limits: hook numbers, size limits and total take-able fish were set by the ministry as a sustainable catch for recreational anglers, no problems providing participants keep within those rules. These limits should not come under critique from rod users. The mention of torpedos, kites and kontikis was with reference to getting the users to belong to the NZACA, they are anglers every bit as much as you and I, don't moan at them, welcome them into the NZACA fold.

    Try joining a club??? I was secretary of the local Pania club and a fully participating member. I attended, voluntarily, the AGM of the NZACA, I guess over the years I have paid my dues. In those days the Pania club was a more a family affair and it was not unusual to have a member bring his kids along for fun day at the beach. Casting over grass? Yes with a Nottingham style reel and a green-heart rod, you are not a caster until you have brained a finger with the handle of a fast revolving reel. Casting over grass was how we learned that would be around 1955, just 57 years ago.

    Elitist. When I was last contributing to this message board there was thread after thread bemoaning the terrible fishing in Hawke's Bay, there was even a petition to present to government complaining at the lack of fish. Now I read red cod are pain in the backside, lemons and spiny dogs are not much better, and coudas are the absolute pits. To top it off you say you have taken large snapper. Just what is the situation? I have no trouble gaining enjoyment and a fish for tea, and I have no problems eating lemon fish or red cod, it's down to the angler's knowledge on how to handle the fish for cooking.

    With regard to clubs. Not everyone is interested in fishing a competition for an entire weekend, most have family commitments that take priority. Only this very morning an ex-member of this forum told me he has a partner to consider, I have age and a wife that prevent me from fishing long hours. Have you ever considered holding a competition in two tiers, where those who wish to fish for many hours are in one group, and family people can fish 8:00am to 4:00pm on a Sunday?

    Well there's a second suggestion that could be helpful to getting you more members.

    To finish I will make one comment on the final sentence in the post from Gary: But make sure you join the NZACA. After all they are the "Big Daddy" of all surfcasters.

    I'm sure they are, only about 90% of the anglers in this country have never heard of them. May I suggest you ask yourself why, as it smacks of complacency? This could very well be the reason why I suggested if being a member of the association was a prerequisite for fishing a large tournament, it could well enhance the NZACA's profile and swell the membership of both the association and the clubs. However, I am now informed the club's finances are of more importance than the NZACA, so much for supporting 'Big Daddy'.

    Now you have much more to criticise but for God's sake don't discuss my suggestions as they may just work to the benefit of everyone ... and that would never do.

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