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Pania weekend

Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 7:53 am

Yoey has proclaimed that we cannot weigh in any other fish this weekend unless we have two red cod to weigh first.
It looks like a red cod weekend though with rain, wind and cold temps for Hawkes Bay.
Should be fun trying!

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 9:09 am, in reply to "Pania weekend"

Looks pretty swelly everywhere too? Still theres always a red cod at Awatoto or Westshore

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Posted by AndyG <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=AndyG' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 10:50 am, in reply to "Pania weekend"

Well we've had a good run until now, should be a good challenge

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Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 11:29 am, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"
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I have a few tame Red Cod over here, orders taken now.

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Posted by Nick HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Nick+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 2:13 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

from Bonefish to Red Cod in one week... how depressing can that be?

A man and fish wouldn't get into trouble if they kept their mouth shut.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 2:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Its ok Phil I'm sure there will be a few around here. Gary will find them

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Posted by SNAPPA NAPIER <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=SNAPPA+NAPIER' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 7:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Wont be too hard to find Redcod, they usually find you!!

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Posted by racepics <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=racepics' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 7:37 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Do you get extra points for Red Cod with festering sores and attached lice?
(If so I had an excellent candidate a week or two back)

http://www.paniasurfcasting.org
http://www.surfcaster.co.nz

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 8:23 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Deep fried lice are quite popular in some places (Foxton?)

. Very crunchy.....

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 8:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"
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Rex if you want to be Red Cod club champion put a smelly bit of old bait in your chilly bin tomorrow morning and leave it in the sun. On Saturday night put it down by the high tide mark ,making shore to leave the lid open. Give it about an hour and you should have your limit.
Kane told me this is his special technic and I was sworn to secrecy ,but I just like to share.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Jase <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Jase' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 9:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Is it bad that I haven't even seen a red cod in 2 years. Do they even venture this far north?

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 8/5/2013, 9:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"
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There will be one on the way to you one Monday Jase, we can't have you suffering from Red Cod Withdrawal Syndrome.

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Ill drop sum in on my way past if you want Jase?? Just let me know

. Now Phill secrets should remain just that mate

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Posted by Jase <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Jase' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 9/5/2013, 5:07 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Lmao. I reckon I'm ok guys. I really do. I can't say I miss them to be honest.

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 9/5/2013, 10:08 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Keep on the lookout Jase, I have caught a few Bastards as far north as Karikari. Not the real thing I know but if you are missing them then they make a decent substitute.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/5/2013, 9:50 am, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Will I see a bunch of people at Awatoto tomorrow. Early Brass Monkey?

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Posted by kevynz <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=kevynz' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/5/2013, 11:44 am, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Where do we find two red cod i try not to target this specie like others.

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/5/2013, 1:16 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

This is going to be fun!

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

Re: Pania weekend

Cmon Kevy. Theyl be on most local beaches, my bets High tides mornings and evening, with evening high tide most likely. Houmoana would be a likely spot as well as totos, gill or nthshore. Hell now im making it sound like a hunt and gather challenge.

Bait anything that smells off

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Hangler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Hangler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/5/2013, 2:19 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Fished Marine Parade for a couple of hours yesterday, the sea conditions were near perfect.

The fish were scarce with only one medium sized Kahawai for my efforts. Sad to report that crabs have returned in good numbers, they were on the bait within a minute of two of it hitting the water.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/5/2013, 3:20 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Thanks for the report Hangler. Westshore could be another place for red cod also. I caught a few down there this time last year.

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 10/5/2013, 11:02 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

You catch them anytime anywhere Rex. Pity about the southerly because the big reddies will be in at Porangahou by now and there we could get other species of good size.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 12/5/2013, 8:22 am, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Yeah it ruined my plan for this weekend. Was bad timing really. So who managed to find them? I fished Gill Road from 5.30ish to 7.00 last night and didnt see one? Were there 1000s at Te Awanga?

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 12/5/2013, 7:47 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Only Jimmy and I managed two red cod Rex. He also had 2 kahawai for a convincing win. I had my cod by 10.30am on Saturday then couldnt buy a bite for the rest of the comp. Plenty of other fish caught including Dunkies biggest ever lemon (well I guessed it was the way he was yahooing) over 14 kgs! Gloria had a gurnard and a kahawai and kevvy had 4 kahawai, 1 red cod. An interesting challenge which I managed to master half of.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

Re: Pania weekend

Well ..... I'm not entirely surprised. There a mercurial fish at times the old reddies. Pity you couldnt get a few extras to lift those p;oints Gary. Bet there were a few frustrated clubbies at the weigh in

. Gill road was nice on Sat morning at 5.30ish when I got there and it was nice for most of the day. Plenty of kahawai and coutas. But No Flipping Cod

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Hangler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Hangler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 12/5/2013, 8:40 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

It takes a great deal of skill, patience and finesse to hook up with a red cod. These fish are well known for their seeming stealth, almost bordering on cunning, plus their feeding fickleness when it comes to bait selectivity is legendary, their ability to throw the hook when the angler treats them with the slightest hint of contempt.

I believe this is the problem you guys face when you fish local competitions; you treat this fish far too lightly totally failing to grasp the merits of a truly sporting great. You should be out their lauding the fact our beaches are a winter angler's haven. When other surfcasters pack their gear away, sadly not man enough to handle the temperatures and the lack of a truly excellent table fish, especially an adversary freely acknowledged for a dogged fight ... indeed a sportsman's worthy nemesis.

Hawke's Bay anglers have it made. I am encouraged to ask; just when will you learn to appreciate our good fortune?

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 12/5/2013, 8:55 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

The puss seeping ulcer on the smaller of my two reddies might have put you off Hangler!

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Rex HB <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Rex+HB' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 13/5/2013, 9:31 am, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

When they come into shore in plagues there anything but fickle. But they can be very sneaky when you try to hook them. I had one freezing cold night at Awatoto where they kept on tripping the rods and then dropping the bait at the slightest feel of tension. Certainly provied a bit of entertainment.

Re: Pania weekend

Posted by Hangler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Hangler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 13/5/2013, 12:11 pm, in reply to "Re: Pania weekend"

Gary, if the bait you were using is that old you should upgrade to something a little fresher.

Rex, this tip has really worked well for me. I have mentioned before I like the far lighter material used to make European hooks than the NZ heavy variety. Of course the likes of Black Magic will hold up far better against larger fish but when it's only red cod, gurnard or kahawai, then the lighter material is ideal.

The tip I picked up from a UK fishing site is to offset the hook from the bend to the tip, probably no more than 2 to 3mm. The match angler advising this small offset then suggested you try to pull the hook between two fingers held loosely together: it's impossible without hooking up. What was being shown was this makes the odds of the fish actually hooking itself far more in the angler's favour.

Whether right or not is a matter of personal perspective and belief but he suggested more fish are lost by anglers picking up the rod and tightening the line at the first sign of a take. This guy fishes for his country and is highly respected, his method is to identify a take and then totally ignore it. He gave the idea that in many cases fish feed in numbers, certainly true of red cod and gurnard. His tip was by leaving the rod alone the fish will hook itself. I use the offset hook and this is quite correct, but he went on to say the fish on the hook may well attract another fish to the other bait if using a two hook rig.

When fishing from rocks or in a boat, many times I have hooked a fish and when bringing it to the surface I have watched others follow it up as if they were missing out on something. I'm confident others will say they have witnessed the same happening.

I believe those tips from a top surf angler are worthy of consideration and a trial on a couple of visits to the beach.

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