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Rubber Type Lures

Posted by Charlie <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Charlie' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 16/9/2014, 4:44 pm

Would like to know what people think of these rubber type lures.
How they rig them? Do you use a running rig or a ledger (paternoster) rig.
What type do you use? Needle fish, squid, worm etc.as there is so many different types.
Do you put bait on the hook as well?
How successful are they compared to just bait on the hook?
Would like to try these out this season and to run a comparison between lures, bait and lures & bait.

Re: Rubber Type Lures

Posted by Hangler <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Hangler' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 17/9/2014, 10:00 am, in reply to "Rubber Type Lures"

In an estuary a small shrimp lure can be quite deadly but this is generally for small fish as they require a very small hook.

In the surf they may help as an attraction but I wouldn't use one unless it has a tasty morsel of fresh bait attached. I believe we all know the best baits are oily and bring fish to the offering.

The television shows tend to show soft plastics, jigs and rubber lures in a false light. First they are fished differently from a boat as to how we fish the surf. Also you will notice that in all the shows where they are simply slaying snapper of lures, it is always filmed around Auckland or north thereof.

Meaning no disrespect to any of those television producers, they don't show surfcasting south of the Bay of Plenty as they know they wouldn't get enough film in the can to make anything of a show. Even then they tend to show Torpedoes as they are confident they will film fish coming ashore.

That's my two pennyworth, I hope it helps.

Re: Rubber Type Lures

Posted by Chad <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Chad' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 17/9/2014, 1:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Rubber Type Lures"

My best day from the beach using softbaits was at Mahanga in about November 2007

2 kingfish, 8 Gurnard and 4 snapper.

Using softbaits from the rocks is incredibly deadly, and baits didn't work at all

Softbaits are awesome and from my experience, they tend to pick up the bigger fish that are around. I have hundreds of photos of good fish, and in recent yeas, lure caught fish are very prominent. On realy hard days fishing, these things are bloody gold. Im not saying they are the magic answer to catching more fish every time, but its something to conceder. You only get out what you put in.

Charlie, long droppers on ledgers have worked the best for me, using both shrimps, crabs and 4 inch shards in the surf. Kahawai certainly love em behind a float too.

Wairoa
Hawkesbay

Take Nothing For Granted

Re: Rubber Type Lures

Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 17/9/2014, 7:21 pm, in reply to "Re: Rubber Type Lures"

Gulp Crabs on ledger rigs are good in the surf. I have caught trevally, kahawai, kingfish, gurnard and snapper in the Hawkes Bay surf.
You can use them on their own, add a bait or add them to a bait. You can cut gulp up into any size bait you need and they will work.
The crabs on a ledger rig is a good option during the day when little is happening. Just cast them out and leave them there. I did just that at Mahanga and scored a kahawai and a snapper, cast again and caught a kahawai and a gurnard. My other rod with bait didnt move. I agree with Chad that it is not the silver bullet but you would be a fool to say they dont work as some surfcasters do.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

Re: Rubber Type Lures

Posted by whippersnapper <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=whippersnapper' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 17/9/2014, 7:57 pm, in reply to "Re: Rubber Type Lures"

I've tried softbaits here in the bay of plenty only a handful of times with nothing more than a few halfway descent KY. In Wellington though, every time I've used them I have got blue cod and always better sized than on bait (if bait is working at all).

Not my go to, but always have a few rigs and a small tub of them if need be.

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