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Posted by The druid <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=The+druid' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 29/9/2016, 12:56 pm

Could someone(probably lots) explain to me please, why some reels are better than others for setting up more distance. I appreciate that practice with any reel will help, but I hear casters talking about the engineering/design of their reel and how it added more metres.

Re: long cast reels

Posted by Team Century <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Team+Century' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 29/9/2016, 2:43 pm, in reply to "long cast reels"

In fixed spools.
Spool profile will influence line lay and in casting how it comes off the spool. A longer spool
that is narrow throws smaller loops from the spool resulting in smaller loops passing through guides and more loops(line) coming off faster in the cast equals more distance.
An osolating bail arm that lays the line differently on the up wind to the downwind means less resistance to each wrap of line as they each come off the spool. This is of lttle use though if the line lay does not lay line evenly throughout the osolation but creates bumps and hollows this will create resistance to each loop of line thus robbing distance.
Daiwa have also used a spool that is wider at the top than the base the idea being the spool will throw each loop from the spool.
This clip shows how to load the line correctly label up personally I wet the line first helps it to bed down on the spool and I would not use Red Ice, cheap and springy Other Ultima lines are much better.
Hope this helps.

Re: long cast reels

Posted by Neil <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Neil' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 29/9/2016, 7:47 pm, in reply to "Re: long cast reels"

With the longer spools the line level doesn't drop very quickly .

If you look at a classic reel like a penn 850 its a short deep spool . When that sort of reel is cast the line level drops very quickly . Big down side of that is the line either gets thrown out in big loops which rub on the rod and or rings excessively adding lots of friction.

If you have a nice limp line on you end up with the line rubbing on the edge of the spool which also adds friction .

The long shallow spools as Mark has stated throw the line in fairly small loops and as the line level doesn't drop that much there is far less friction .

The way the line is laid on the spool also helps with the best casting reels having a super slow oscillation so the line is stacked on the spool very very closely.

Freespools had a few distinct advantages where the line is not been thrown in loops so there is less friction and with the spool actively throwning the line off the spool due to its momentum so less friction again.

Getting the braking of freespools right is the big trick . Too little braking and its birdnest time . Too much and you lose distance ..

My fishing freespools are all set up with lots of braking so they are nearly idiot proof .

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Posted by GaryK <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=GaryK' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 30/9/2016, 12:05 am, in reply to "Re: long cast reels"

Check out a Penn SSLC750 spin. Loaded up these reels are sweet. Slow Occilation, and parralel line load means less friction during cast.

The snapper don't know where the car park is!
Sometimes it is better to travel than to arrive.

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Posted by Phill <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=Phill' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 30/9/2016, 12:33 pm, in reply to "Re: long cast reels"
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I agree with the above. I use a cheap Tica Dolphin for distance casting works for me.
Do not forget the rod line and sinker weight combination.

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Posted by The druid <iframe src='https://members5.boardhost.com/surfcasting/info/user=The+druid' width='330' height='300' border=0 style='border:none;'> on 2/10/2016, 7:23 am, in reply to "Re: long cast reels"

Thanks for all that. A long narrow reel would be an advantage? Not sure about the occilition but I suppose this,means that the line takes longer to wind on down the spool? so the wraps are layed on closer together.

Re: long cast reels

Effectively yes. On some models the wind varies from the wind down to the wind up. Resulting in more line on which means less line drop and friction on the cast while the next set of loops coming off the spool are laid down differently those on the previous ossilation which again means less friction which equals longer casts.

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