Sorry Derek, I dont recall your first post, mind you, Ive not been on a lot lately! That said, if I saw it and didnt reply- it would only have been cos I didnt think Id be able to offer any decent help... (speaking personally here of course) Thanks for posting the conclusion.. Thats and ideal example I reckon of what this sites all about.. It'll be there in the archives now for future reference as you say! Cheers.. Mike